There is a new P4P #1

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still think it's Usyk. The guys he beat were fresher and had much more in the tank than what Canelo had last night. Not to mention the size disparity was more pronounced. I thought going in Crawford would win. I didn't feel that way with Usyk. Still great night for Bud he deserves the spotlight on his accomplishment.
     
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  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I cannot argue with this. Crawford is #1 P4P, the best American fighter right now, an ATG, you name it, he's it. Nothing but respect.

    Hopefully next time he fights he doesn't get booed by his own countrymen.
     
  3. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    Beating Tank at 130lb would do that already, and is a much more achievable fight. Just like Crawford, Naoya would have the slight height advantage, skill advantage and speed.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Oh it will wait until the new rankings are posted.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Usyk was a huge cw was he just a HW all along shrinking down to beat up on smaller Cruiserweights??? Do you see how that works??? Weight bully is just an term created by haters to try and discredit boxers they dont like. Before the fight no one said anything about this why? Because most everyone thought Canelo would smoke Crawford, me included. Now after that didn't happen and crawford shocked the world haters like you want to make excuses and try and discredit the win.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even as a Canelo fan who's more of a Canelo fan than a Bud fan, I'm also a Bud fan and respect the hell out of what he's accomplished in the sport. Not only that but unlike Mayweather who became greedy and obsessed with Money, Crawford has stayed humble and has earned his place at the top of the sport.

    Crawford riding Canelo's coattails to P4P #1 is totally cool with me, especially considering that we don't know if Canelo would have regained P4P #1 if he won. And lets face it, Crawford needed this win more than Canelo needed it. Canelo's legacy is so well cemented by now he can sustain this loss and still fight on and accomplish new things. While I was thinking about this earlier, that Canelo seemed to be OK with losing this which on the one hand is classy on the other hand, I would have liked to see Canelo go out on his shield in the last 2 rounds. Why did he not press the action like he did against GGG in the late rounds in Fights 1 or 2. The late stages of the Crawford fight was more like the late stages of the Scull fight or GGG 3 even when Canelo thought he was ahead.

    I guess my criticism of Canelo here, is where was the urgency from the corner heading into the Championship Rounds from Eddy? Did they think they were ahead at that point and did not believe they needed to press the action? Crawford winning those last 2 rounds won him the fight, and if Canelo would have won them, Canelo would have won. And that reality sounds perfectly in line with what we saw up to that point. Much different than the unofficial score of course, which was very one-sided in favor of Crawford which set expectations in Crawford's direction. And had Canelo done that fans would be crying that Crawford was robbed in that scenario. Don't lie, you know that would be happening. And this would be just another notch on the Canelo judging conspiracy bandwagon.

    But that didn't happen, Canelo didn't do enough to clearly win those last 2 rounds you could say, and Bud won them. So here we are, but we shouldn't take anything away from Bud here. He you could say did enough to win this fight. But how would what happened here set up for a rematch, would Canelo become motivated to really press the action more in a rematch and develop a better gameplan for Crawford having already been in there with him.

    Canelo has now suffered his 3rd loss in his career, and up to this point, he has not had an opportunity to rematch either of the fighters who beat him. This is unusual in the life of a top Fighter. It will be interesting to see if Canelo can secure rematches with Bivol or Crawford, and if he will go on to take on other top contenders like Mbilli or Benavidez.

    We don't know how many more fights Canelo or Bud have left in them. But they both gave us an inspiring competitive fight. I'm not saying that it set the world on fire, but it did deliver to a greater extent than many other big fights. The question now is what does Bud do now. He has all the SMW Belts, he has P4P #1. The world is Crawford's oyster now. Does he ride off into the sunset or does he fight on? Does he welcome a Canelo rematch or does he avoid it? Could he defend against Charlo? There are many fights to be made in this new landscape, but Bud doesn't typically fight too often, and Canelo fights twice a year. I have no idea how it will go from here but we will see.

    In the meantime it is Great to have an American P4P #1. Crawford deserves it in my estimation.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Casuals did*

    Pretty easy fight to call tbh. But I knew you would be gassing Crawford up with this disingenuous narrative afterwards. "Oh my god Crawford is so good I can't believe I was wrong" lmao.... Bro you are so full of ****. Anyone who isn't brain damaged can see right through you.
     
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  8. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Official rankings from who? That little gimp Turki? :lol:
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You dummy i thought Canelo would win and win easily. Im also a fan of both fighters and he shocked the world. Don't get mad at me that Crawford did the impossible had a historic win and youre butthurt because people are giving him accolades. Usyk was very deserving of his p4p #1 ranking if had him ranked #1 before Saturday night now that belongs to Crawford. This isn't a crazy opinion to have and most people who aren't haters agree with it.
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I always thought Crawford was the best fighter of this era. Just on eye test / performance. But who you beat is what matters. I think they are comparable resume wise. Usyk's resume at Cruiser is overrated as hell.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You mean the same ones that had usyk #1??? Now all of a sudden they dont have credibility if crawford is elevated to #1. You're too easy
     
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  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    You are so stupid. Turki wanted Fury to beat Usyk and he sure as hell wanted Crawford to beat Canelo.
    The desperation to knock Usyk out of the number one spot is hilarious and obviously agenda driven.
     
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  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah you had all of your bases covered. Clenelo wins your proxy Mayweather cheerleading is satisfied. If Crawford wins you can go "wow even I couldn't see this coming what a monumental achievement" Even though many picked Crawford to win. It was hardly a shocking upset lmfao.
     
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  14. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep I picked Canelo I thought the size would be too much but the bookies only had Crawford at about 2 to 1 so it was not like some massive upset. It was win win for pimp like you said he had his bases covered and this is a guy who used to say Crawford was too scared to cross the street to fight Spence.
     
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  15. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    I find it hard to dislodge Usyk despite Crawford's feat. Usyk still put together three magnificent performances in a year and a half:
    - He beat Fury, who was the favorite before the cut and at 50-50 on fight day, and came close to stopping him in the ninth round. It was a split decision, but everyone except this judge saw a clear victory for Usyk.
    - He confirmed his performance against Fury with a 3x116-112 UD.
    - Finally, he faced the new number 2 in the weight class, who had three strong performances, and he humiliated him with a fifth-round knockout. Dubois was rated at 3.5 by the bookmakers, but watching the fight, you'd have thought he was at 10.