There is a new P4P #1

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Why in the hell would he want Crawford a non draw to beat the biggest draw in boxing??
    With that said it didn't matter at the end of the day usyk was moved to #1 and rightfully so but this win from Crawford has moved him to #1.
    Your excuse making and your endless work to try and discredit this win has been hilarious to watch the cope is strong. You cant stand it and neither do your buddies here who hate American fighters and never give them their due and always have excuses. Atleast I give fighters their due you won't yet you say im the one with the agenda you're the hypocrite with the agenda here not me.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You fool I've been a canelo fan since canelo-ggg 1. I've often referred to him as king canelo. Most people here didnt pick Crawford to win you didnt and neither did your buddies but instead of giving him his due your butthurt ass tries to rain on the parade because your precious usyk is about to be dethroned. Cope harder.
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Crawford has never fought a man who has outweighed him or out reached him in the ring. Even then his 135 and 140 resume (where he was coming into the ring at 154+lbs) isn't amazing and he had blips like being rocked by Gamboa.

    Usyk comprehensively beat the three best H2H fighters in his division who naturally outweighed him by over 20+lbs and nearly 60lbs respectively. Multiple times. The man literally dominates much bigger world level and elite level opponents without a single slip up. Quite frankly it's insane. The definition of 'pound for pound'.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Proxy fan* I picked Crawford to win clown it's on record lmao. I also picked him to beat your boyfriend Spence. I've given Crawford his due for a long time. It's just hilarious how you haven't changed at all over the years on here and think no one sees through your transparent af bs lmao.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If I had agenda and was nothing but a blind fanboy I would've picked Crawford to win dummy. I also picked garcia to beat Haney. I mean I always pick the black fighters to win right?? No I picked canelo to win but rooted for Crawford the underdog. If you picked Crawford to win it was so you could downplay the win like you've done since the fight ended. Your agenda couldn't be more transparent.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was impressed with Crawford, but I see Canelo Crawford for what it was - a very back and forth competitive fight. Bud did what he had to do to win, but in my estimation was fortunate to come out with a decision victory in a fight of that magnitude. Canelo on the other hand came out of that fight after having 12 close rounds against a highly skilled opponent who is now regarded as the #1 P4P Fighter in the sport.

    I guess you could say that Bud owes a lot to Canelo for giving him this opportunity. But Bud did it all on his own and deserves all the glory here. I just wonder if Bud will fancy a rematch against Canelo and if you think in a rematch Bud could have a problem against a more motivated Canelo? Anotherwords do you think it's smart for Bud to ride off into the sunset, or do you think Bud could do the same thing in a rematch. You picked Canelo to win "easily" for a reason, I'm trying to understand what went into that logic and how you would see a rematch playing out.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You had your bases covered. I thought Crawford would win because Clenelo has struggled with that style throughout his career and hasn't look great in a long time. No knockouts even against mediocre opponents that he was expected to stop. I rate Crawford much higher than I do Clenelo. He's a lock for top 3 and it wouldn't be crazy to have him at #2 but no way is he #1. Usyk moving up to HW to beat much bigger opponents and establish himself as the kingpin is way more impressive. Crawford is still beating opponents who are more or less the same size as he is. His career really doesn't become that impressive until he moved up to 147.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I think there will be a rematch simply too much money on the table and canelo will want to get his get back. I think canelo thought he would be too strong for Crawford and would bully and break him down and thought that as well. He will need to come with a different gameplan in the rematch imo.
     
  9. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk still has the deeper resume which, ultimately, is more important. Bud really shone last saturday, but the majority of his record - if you'll pardon the blunt expressions - is made up of has beens and never weres.
     
  10. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    As you can see above I gave Crawford his due a long time ago and picked him to stop Spence unlike you who said that Crawford was too scared to cross the street. So keep trying to use the same narrative that I hate American fighters.
    Like @UnleashtheFURY has already said your agenda is so transparent.
    It was pretty obvious that Turki and the broadcasters all wanted Crawford to win they were glazing him all night even in the build up Canelo knew Turki was against him he even said so at the presser. The only thing hilarious in this thread is your phony schtick. You can't stand the fact that most hardcore fans recognize a non American in Usyk as the best fighter in the world. Nobody cares who Ring Magazine or ESPN rate as the best we know more than enough to judge for ourselves.
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Canelo has a 3 fight deal with Turki he's deeply invested in his success so try again.

    You picking crawford to beat Spence doesnt mean anything those were two anerican fighters you had to pick one. Don't act like youre a crawford fan because we both know youre not.

    Yeah you care alright you brought up those publications when they ranked him usyk #1 now all of a sudden they're meaningless lmfao!

    You've called crawford a weight bully and have co-signed and liked others who said this..
    Your inferiority complex excuse making and anti American agenda couldn't be more obvious.
     
  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    LOL when did I bring up these publications ranking Usyk you liar? Those rankings are always bogus imagine having a guy like Tank Davis in the top 10 :lol:
    How can my above post paying full respect to Crawford be taken any other way? I call it like I see it Usyk is the better fighter.
    You are the one that is a fair weather Crawford fan you said for years he was ducking Spence because he was scared. Now he beats a washed Canelo and you are worshipping him only for the simple fact that he is American.
    The only person around here with an inferiority complex is you lad always having to tell everybody that you are better than them :lol:
     
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  13. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Who cares what country the #1 guy is from? Both Crawford and Usyk are great fighters. I feel both have valid arguments for the spot. I'm just glad I like both guys. I never understood this nationalist attitude with boxing fans. I enjoy the sport. I've been fans of fighters from all over the world and I never liked an American fighter just because they are from the US or disliked a fighter because they were not. It's all about who the baddest man in the ring come fight night.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Crawford has beaten 2 top 10 P4P fighters in Canelo, Spence.

    Crawford has 20 world title wins compared to 13 for Usyk.

    Crawford being undisputed in 4 weightclasses is also pretty insane aswell.

    So there is definitely an argument for Crawford being above Usyk.

    But Usyk does has some very impressive feats P4P wise in regards to the much bigger world class Heavyweights he's been beating regularly. And whilst Usyk's had less fights i think there is a bit more quality on his resume in regards to the opponents he's beaten.

    Overall though i think you could make an argument either way.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I pulled for Spence over crawford because Spence is from Texas but ive always been a crawford fan. I never said crawford was ducking Spence it was their promoters making it difficult for the fight to be made.

    You ain't calling nothing like you see it. You called him and other American fighters weight bullies but dont do that for other fighters who are big for their divisions why??? I'll tell you why because youre jealous of our talent and have an inferiority complex.

    Lastly saying canelo is washed further proved my point you picked canelo to win but after he doesnt the excuses flood in, he's washed and crawford is a weight bully.