According to this forum 1988-1991 Mike Tyson allegedly beats every heavyweight in the 1920s

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  1. RockyValdez

    RockyValdez Active Member Full Member

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    Sure he would... Because the late 20th century fighters who are bigger, faster, stronger, and better schooled would be so much easier than the "super heavyweight" farm boy lummoxs Miske fought like Tom Cowler, Fred Fulton, and Carl Morris. None of whom were championship material or even close.
     
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  2. RockyValdez

    RockyValdez Active Member Full Member

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    He didnt look like he knew how to clinch anything other than the ring ropes against Dempsey. He just held on for dear life and turned his back!
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Tom Cowler would have replaced guys like Buster Douglas and Tony Tucker
     
  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fulton and Morris were better than the champ during their primes the belt was frozen because of the war.

    Fulton was the most dangerous superheavy of the early 20th century. "Not even close to championship level". You can't be serious.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    No.
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yup then Tyson catches a murder charge. Nothing funny about that!
     
  7. RockyValdez

    RockyValdez Active Member Full Member

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    Did Buster Douglas and Tucker consistently lose to light heavyweights? Sometimes by stoppage? Because Cowler did in his prime.
     
  8. RockyValdez

    RockyValdez Active Member Full Member

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    Your dangerous "super heavyweight" consistently weighed under 220 pounds in his prime. There isnt anything super about that in the modern era. Today hed be a lanky cruiserweight. He was basically the same size or smaller than Tyson opponents Alderson, Richardson, Nelson, Scaff, Jaco, Jameson, Green, Ribalta, Ratliffe, Smith, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, Thomas, Tubbs, Bruno, Williams, Douglas, Tillman, Stewart, Ruddock, and on and on and on. Basically Fulton was unusual for his size in his time. He was average in Tysons. And that doesnt even touch on the wide skill gap between Fulton's time and Tysons.

    Calling Fulton the most dangerous super heavy of the early twentieth century is simply looking at him with rose colored glasses. Youve never seen him fight. We arent talking about what he could do in the 1910s against a bunch of white hope farm boys. We are talking about what he could do against a professional wrecking machine of the 1980s who just happened to have a knack for bowling over "big" heavyweights.

    Fulton's manager Mike Collins said he had no heart. Guys like that tended to lose the fight while Tyson was walking to the ring.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Consider Tyson is also going to be able to stand over his fallen opponents and pounce on them as soon as their technically not on the canvas.
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I wouldn't favor anyone from that decade to win, let alone even odds. I have no idea why slow, lumbering, leaky defense Willard is being brought up. Maybe if he was trained by Steward and is allowed to just lean on and wrestle Tyson with no shame and the ref breaks it up any time Tyson landed a single glancing blow, he'd have a slim chance but I doubt it and that's not reality. The vast majority of the rest of the contenders like Fulton, Sharkey, Firpo, etc don't make it past the 5th. I doubt even Tunney could go the distance.

    Dempsey would be a fun fight while it lasts. His quick hands and ferocious, explosive fast starting give him the best chance of an upset--perhaps with a freakish cut after a blindingly fast hook or combination that scrapes Tyson's forehead. It's also almost inevitable they clash heads at some point since they had many stylistic similarities and would meet ring center immediately weaving, dipping their legs, and throwing with full power. I'd say Tyson wins at least 70% of the time, but man that would be crazy as hell to see.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson destroys him every single day, and twice on Saturdays.
     
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  14. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, you are.
     
  15. janitor

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    I am of the school of thought that once a champion stops taking their training seriously, somebody is going to clean their clock eventually.