Oleksandr Usyk Vs Bud Crawford (resume and accomplishments)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TipNom, Sep 14, 2025.


Who has the more impressive resume and accomplishments?

  1. Usyk

    78.5%
  2. Bud

    21.5%
  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would be interested in hearing the argument for Joshua and Fury being great. The potential for greatness might have been there but in terms of accomplishments I don't see much case.

    I think the Dubois loss prevents Joshua from being great and Furys thin resume likewise precludes greatness
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is not proven until it is proven. It is flat out stupid to justify your fighter being a proven PEDs cheat by telling yourself everyone does it. I am not naive, you are an intellectual coward to do this.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes you are. Very naive. Roids have been rampant in sports since the 60s this is a fact, practically everyone in football admitted to taking them not to mention modern day olympians and logically one must even the playing field to remain at the top level for so long. I am using critical thinking. You might not think Usyk is on something and perhaps he's clean as a whistle, but most people do, because the odds are, he is, along with most elite level fighters. It's just probability, it is more likely Usyk and Crawford are using illegal substances than not. I would absolutely bet that they are using PEDs

    Masking agents and cycling periods exist, this is nothing new.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, this is what you tell yourself to justify your opinions.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's the truth, they are all incentivized to gain an advantage and it's not hard to hide the usage. Many Olympic athletes have confessed

    By your own logic fighters are only using PEDs when they pop, and if they never pop again and pass more PED tests afterwards then that must mean they stopped using drugs and just turned a new leaf
     
  6. BoxingWarrior

    BoxingWarrior Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Crawford looks bigger than Canelo? He is also longer in height and reach.
     
  7. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly Bud's top list doesn't look great at all. I thought I might have missed something, but no it looks as mediocre as it always did.
    Are people honestly comparing that to Usyk's list? Usyk also had to double up on rematches with very dangerous fighters.
     
  8. Longfellow78

    Longfellow78 New Member Full Member

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    Hi. First time poster! I would love an expert opinion on Crawford please? I was amazed at how he dealt with Canelo and frustrated him, it was exceptional. I am intersted with how Crawford's natural weight has been 147 - how is it that he was able to get to 168 and retain his power? Was he much lighter than Canelo on fight night? I always heard than Canelo was a weight bully, but apparently Crawford's walkaround weight is closer to 190, and he is taller than Canelo with a longer reach. If so, how is Crawford able to campaign so well at 147, that is an enormous weight cut. Finally - the 160lbs division looks quite weak - could Crawford deal with all the middleweight fighters and become 4 weight undisputed? Thank you for any response.