Reality Check Time! Oleksandr Usyk is Still The P4P Number One Fighter On The Planet. This Is Why...

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would definetly ask Bomac if I spoke to him, but trainers say a lot of things. I’ve heard from both GGG’s and Ward’s trainers that they could compete with HWs, also heard Canelo hint that he might fight at cruiserweight and win a title but took it with a pinch of salt.

    You should also ask yourself how is it possible for a fighter to come in the ring 20lbs less than their natural fighting weight and perform. Hint, It’s not. Cutting weight for weigh ins a day prior to the fight is one thing (though still dangerous, several fighters have been hospitalized for it) but to do that on the night of a boxing match would literally kill you.

    You can check these fight night weighs yourself, by the way. Just last year, Crawford was 169lbs against Madrimov. Last time Canelo weighed on fight night was also when he fought at 154, he was 174lbs on fight night against Angulo, that was 11 years ago. And he’s gotten visibly bigger since then.
     
  2. Banana-Rama

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    i just already stated in my previous post that it's dangerous to rehydrate too much, why do you think you need to tell me this?

    So you have no explanation for the words of Crawfords trainer, you're just going to ignore what he said about his own fighter because it doesn't suit want you want to believe. Is Crawford lying too? You're just going to accuse everyone of lying so you can maintain your belief. No point arguing any further when dealing with this kind of person.
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford is a weight bully who almost always has home advantage. How do you go up three weight classes and still have a size advantage?

    Usyk is a road warrior who earned it the hard way against much bigger opponents, and would absolutely smash Crawford. P4P is something small men aspire to because they don't hold a torch to the real top dog.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember you saying Canelo would "mangle" Crawford and beat him down lmfao
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah well... you were saying Frank Sanchez was going to school Agit Kabayel and you think Bivol would KO Dubois, so.... LOL, LMAO, LMFAO and STFU, you're P4P the stupidest poster on this site.
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know what Bomac said, also know that Crawford said he’s likely to continue at MW. That’s Why you should take what fighters and trainers say with a pinch of salt, that’s why It’s more logical to go with actual fight night weights which are factual.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You also thought Berlanga would smoke Sheeraz and Stanionis would demolish Boots LOL. This thread isn't about Kabayel is it ? Everyone gets predictions wrong but you're opinion on Crawford can't be taken seriously considering you were idiotic enough to score the fight for Canelo.

    You literally just said Aj is better than Canelo dude. Usyk could be above Crawford but that opinion has to be trolling of the highest order
     
  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    It's heavyweight, idk how you can give extra credit to someone for beating fighters less skilled than them just cause they outweigh them by a couple of pounds. I've never heard anyone anywhere claim David Hayes victory over Valuev was special cause he was outweighed by 100 pounds.

    That being said, Crawford is clearly p4p number 1, it's not even close. What he did against Canelo at that age/weight difference will probably never be replicated. Also, idk how you guys can claim Canelo was washed up then claim AJ and Fury were prime despite already losing to lesser competition already. Fury got the dog **** beaten out of him by a boxer with 0 wins in Francis Ngannou, probably the most embarrassing performance in boxing history then went straight to fighting Usyk. Joshua got the dog **** beaten out of him by Andy Ruiz and quit, hasn't really done anything after that loss besides running away from Ruiz in the rematch then getting outboxed by Usyk twice. Dubious literally got ko'd by a jab against Joyce and quit. He's one dimensional and was gifted a belt. Besides these 3 wins, who else do you have? The guy who lost to Opetaia twice or the guy who was washed up after 26?
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh... now it's not about getting predictions right? Didn't have to forethought to not open that can of worms did you?:lol: Also a word of advice, if you think someone deserves to be P4P number 1 based on a win, don't turn around and ridicule someone for picking their opponent to win like it was some foregone conclusion, it kind of denigrates said win now doesn't it?o_O After all, if picking Canelo is LMFAO worthy, then I guess that win doesn't mean **** now does it?
     
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  10. CST80

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    Wait.... isn't that exactly what you're doing with Craword for beating Canelo?:lol:
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But you didn't expect Crawford to win now all of the sudden Canelo is washed

    I stopped reading that post when you said aj is better than Canelo. Absolutely not
     
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  12. theanatolian

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    I think overall, considering the state of each fighter at the time of the fights, Briedis is the best opponent they have between them.

    But that’s just based on the eyetest. Mairis hasn’t done **** other than his close fight with Usyk and the good win over Dorticos, was too inactive and should’ve probaby lost to Noel Gevor.

    Aside from the weight jump, What makes Canelo the most credible win (to me anyways) is the fact that even at his worst, he was still fighting and winning regularly and was good enough to win titles.
     
  13. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Crawford fought above 147 only once in his life, Usyk was the heavyweight Olympic gold medalist and has competed in the world amateur championships at Heavyweight for nearly 20 years now. Weight doesn't matter at heavyweight, weight indeed is a factor below heavyweight, it has been for over 200 years of boxing history, that's why we have weight classes.
     
  14. CST80

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  15. CST80

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    The versions they both fought, yes... without a doubt. The Joshua from the Usyk rematch is the best version anyone has ever seen of Joshua in the ring, Canelo looked horrible the other day, and still managed to give Bud a run for his money through 10.