Reality Check Time! Oleksandr Usyk is Still The P4P Number One Fighter On The Planet. This Is Why...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Sep 15, 2025 at 10:37 PM.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yet I've been defending my points and all you've done is tossed out childish insults. Like most in your generation, feel entitled because of parents that coddle you, think you're geniuses from a young age, are mentally and emotionally shattered and crumble when forced into a debate. The projection is strong in Gen Z.
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, you'll be wrong again. Crawford would KO Ortiz. Ortiz will lose to Boots Ennis if he doesn't lose to Xander Zayas first. The guy who gave Virgil hell just got outclassed by Adams.
     
  3. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    My parents did not coddle me, I didn't have the life you assume me to have my mom and dad were both working class
     
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Agree about the complexity of the sport. Too many morons are happy to go with the constant flow of BS that pollutes our sport like undefeated records against sub par opposition, A side BS fighters stacking the deck in their favor, bad judging/robberies, bad refereeing, failed drug tests, not accepting context regarding age, weight, wear and tear, ring rust, injuries etc as long as it suits their man then it's "No Excuses"
    The forum is designed to analyze the sport in depth with like minded hard cores. If someone wants to be a cheer leader go on twitter/social media and join the casual cheer squad.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Shhhhh... don't talk about that! You're not allowed to!:nonono You dare to question the infallibility of Bud Crawford and imply that he's lost or needs KO's to bail himself out. All you're met with is barrage of insults, or....
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Madrimov had over 300+ amateur fights so he isn’t a novice hes no different to Usyk and Loma who had 100s of amateur fights and quickly rose up the ranks due their expansive amateur background.

    And for the record I had Crawford clearly beating Madrimov 7-4-1 he did too much feinting/moving and not enough punching.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Good for you, so were mine. I guess it was going to college that started your brain rot.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Most of the people here think usyk walks on water and discredit other fighters who dare pose a challenge to his ranking. Those same publications that those usyk fanboys touted now all of a sudden are irrelevant since they have a new king. The difference between me and yall is I had no problem with usyk being #1 when he was ranked by them as such, hell I had usyk ranked #1 on my own list but I give credit when its due and Crawford's win is worthy of that and the publications and i have elevated him because of it. When you fail to give credit when due and make excuses when a fighter proves you wrong it shows a flaw in your character and that you lack credibility and are nothing but a fanboy of a fighter rather than a fan of boxing.
     
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  9. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    What brain rot?
     
  10. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    You just scolded me for using insults now you turnaround and do the same is that not hypocritical?
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calm down tough guy. The issue with your generation is you have no respect for people older than you and think life is over when you reach the age of 30. Your generation fiends off instant gratification and dopamine hits and have no respect. I wonder what’s going to become of this gen-z generation once the bulk are not in their 20s anymore.

    Guys like CST are the backbone of this website and one of the reasons why this forum is still so active after all these years. Have some respect or **** off back to TikTok.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Ring Magazine also had Spence ranked #4 or #5 but the far better Briedis was never ranked in the top 10

    CBS had Shakur ranked above Usyk when Shakur was a 2 weight champ, had beaten 2 world champions, all in the US, and Usyk was undisputed at CW and the three-belt unified king at HW winning and unifying all his belts in his opponent's backyards

    Like I said, all my questions get ducked because they know they I'm right
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The irony coming from a guy who thinks that Floyd Mayweather can walk on water :lol:
    I haven't seen anyone on here agree with ring magazine and ESPN's rankings for years when they have guys like Tank Davis in the top 10. LOL at you judging anyone else's character you are the biggest phony on here :lol:
     
  14. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    Why should I have respect for people who don't got none for me? Yall always ask for respect without giving that makes no sense, and yall two always talk in generation terms in terms of my intelligence why you dont anything about me, my whole degree is based on my analysis of words, how can I crave instant satisfaction? I dont even have tiktok.
     
  15. Braindamage

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    I was really hoping you'd apply the same standard and scope of critisim of Usyk's opponents as you did Crawford. By your logic, AJ was knocked out by Ruiz and went to war with Wlad before Usyk got to him, damaged goods and although one of the top guys in the division, not an A fighter. Fury went through 3 wars with Wilder and admitted he was not the same after the trilogy. Not an A fighter. That being said, I would have Crawford slightly behind Usky. I love me some Usyk, so I may be a little biased, but can't be mad if people put The Monster or Bud at the 1 spot.