There is a new P4P #1

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, P4P isn't really a measurable thing though. Everyone and their momma has some skewed criteria and how to apply it. It's fun for fan talks, but that's about it.

    Weight bullies have existed since the second day weigh in started. And yet, every fighter has the same opportunity to do what they do.
     
  2. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    The salt is insane lol.

    OT: It should still be Usyk imo, p4p lists are dumb in general though.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get called a Canelo hater by his stans all the time here. But even I realize he IS a fantastic boxer. And with his weight climb, deserves to have been on the P4P lists, though not atop it IMO.

    When you fight the top guys, sure there might be some struggles. That's been the same for every boxer who has been considered an ATG. No one wins with ease all the time when fighting the top guys.
     
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  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nonsense
    He should try at least bivol
    Just like canelo “dared to be great”
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is actually very funny because I was just talking about how I dont see the hype with Taylor Swift about 20 minutes ago !

    Yes Canelo is obviously an ATG. His resume and accolades back that up

    Mayweather is a goat candidate and Bivol is an ATG LHW which Canelo belonged at fighting. Crawfords win over Canelo triuphs both of theirs considering the context.

    Also I have no idea how you think Canelo struggled vs Danny Jacobs
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was a fight w/ Bivol really "daring to be great"? Canelo was already a title holder at 175 before he fought Bivol.
     
  7. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo thought Bivol was sweet
     
  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It always daring to be great
    When you go up in weight to challenge a belt holder.
    Regardless if he accomplished it in the past.
     
  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can be, but not always...
     
  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cruiserweight is generally a weaker division in boxing but Usyk did beat Glowacki, Hunter, Breidis and Gassiev and Bellew.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Just a reminder that Crawford moved up 21 pounds from his natural weightclass and beat a guy who was higher pfp than anyone Inoue ever beat.
     
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  12. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One thing i notice post fight is every time Crawford is interviewed how Humble and pleasant he is with the Press He really is a Class Act in and out of the Ring very refreshing.!!!
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is a Great Ambassador for American Boxing. I am very pleased with way he conducts himself and it is very refreshing. I also like how straight to the point Crawford is. He's a no nonsense kind of guy and I like that about him.
     
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  14. Cyrion

    Cyrion New Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I do film study. Canelo has been fighting the same exact way his entire career. He used to have a little slickness and some great counter punching to his game, but that left him ages ago. People are trying to anoint Bud as one of the greatest P4P of all-time off this win and the dude he fought hardly even threw a jab the entire night.

    But I am salty. Going all the way back to when Triple G got robbed TWICE by this juiced beef eatin' sonofagun. Canelo is everything wrong with boxing. Picks old men right before retirement looking for a payday. Makes guys come up multiple weight classes. Has an entire weight class invented for him so he doesn't have to actually make the real weight. Slaps rehydration clauses on guys. Then, if he's losing or the fight is close, he's got the judges to bail him out and then he shamelessly acts like he won fair and square. Ducks guys like Benevidez and then instead of telling the truth that he just doesn't want to risk that fight, has to lie and run Benevidez's name through the mud.

    But don't take my word for it. Just ask most Mexican fans who don't have this guy anywhere near the top of their ATG Mexican list. They know he's a prima donna protected fighter. /micdrop
     
  15. Cyrion

    Cyrion New Member Full Member

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    Bivol was Canelo high on his own farts, seeing that Bivol had zero knockout power, seeing that Bivol had looked rather mediocre in his past few fights, and figuring he could rob him on the cards. Whoops!