Would Gennady Golovkin and Marvin Hagler be food for Roy Jones ?

Roy would embarrass ggg and beats hagler

 

Ya failed, try again.

Need a hint?

 

Anyone thinking Jones was a bit green or inexperienced when he left 160 would be in for a rude shock. He fought 4 more times after Hopkins before leaving 160 for good and very next fight he put an almighty schooling on James Toney who was prime with 46 fights under his belt. Jones looked like a million dollars.

 

Not that interested. I’ve stated my opinion that RJJ whips Golovkin. You disagree. I’m happy to leave it at that. You won’t change my mind and likely me yours.

 

Of course you are interested. And the mystery is rapidly solved by realising that Jones and Golovkin were both 35 for those particular fights.

Older fighters typically start to underperform.

 

What a cringey thread title.

 

Jones is undefeated in my eyes. He never lost a fight.

His losses werent the REAL jones.

 

3 of those 4 fights were above 160 though. He did look in peaking form when he finally dropped back down for his final fight vs. tate, but that's far too small of a window to judge him w/ any certainty in h2h matchups of this caliber IMO.

 

Dang, you didn't even last 2 hours.

 

Absolutely, they were. His blistering performance against Tate shows us he certainly wasn't weight drained at 160 when he departed for Toney, whom he schooled next fight.

Skill wise and peak wise his very next fight might have been his best display ever, and when it mattered too. I see the Jones of Tate and Toney as basically one and the same, personally. He certainly didn't make some quantum leap in experience during the two rounds Tate lasted, and he didn't struggle to make weight.

The perceived window means little as to who wins in the ring. Duran had few meaningful fights at 140, a small window. Heaven help the pocket of the man betting against him at 140 against the biggest names.

When it comes to H2H between greats where no big stylistic advantage exists, "certainty" doesn't exist. It's a lottery really.

 

No. Hagler would rise to the occasion.

 

I don't think people realize how good the Tate win was in context

Tate was only legitimately stopped once in 48 fights and Jones literally destroyed him in 2 rounds.

Tate went 12 rounds with Julian Jackson in a competitive fight in which he traded punches with Jackson which shows how durable he was.

Tate was also in wars past his prime vs hard hitting Merqui Sosa and Omar Sheika and survived both wars and won them which again shows his durability.

RJJ didn't have a real long career at Middleweight but he had enough good showings against some legit opponents that shows he is a considerable H2H threat at the weight.

RJJ won every round against Jorge Castro in only his 17th pro fight. Castro would go on to become Middleweight champion 2 years later beating the very good Reggie Johnson.

Of course we all know he beat Bernard Hopkins convincingly with a broken hand.

I don't think RJJ was as green at Middleweight as people are making out and I'd still pick him over 95 percent of any Middleweight who ever lived.

 

Roid wasn't the real Roy either .

 

Gotta favor prime Jones against both, but they would both be great fights.