The reality of Crawford's victory over Canelo explained in one minute

Nah, you're just looking for an excuse because Crawford is better than you thought. I remember you mentioning Bud being 38 moving up 2 weight classes and looking poor against Madrimov when others told you that Canelo is on the decline

if were being honest Canelo has been past it since 2022 which is why he looked the exact same against Charlo, Muguia and Ryder when he walked Crawford down, Stalking methodically but in educated matter, loading up on shots when he has them near the ropes, working the body and arms to break his opponents down. But unlike them Crawford neutralized Canelos jab and offense with his own lead hand and movement. This made Canelo look worse than he really was. Canelo is still elite

 

Yes but how many of those fighters have the reach advantage Crawford had? How many fighters jumping up two full weight classes were P4P #1 or close to that? There's also a common thread between what SRL did and what Bud did. They didn't just move up multiple weight classes in a short period of time. They took their time, and they didn't take any tuneups. Charlo for example jumped up two weight classes pretty quickly. With Bud he had been planning this for years, and it took time for him to move up in weight safely, to retain his speed.

I understand Serge's point, and to Serge's credit, he was one of the few who saw that Crawford wasn't as undersized as many thought he was. So what happened didn't seem to surprise Serge because he talked about how big Crawford was for a while. That said, I also agree with your point to an extent that if you make the weight that's that. Stylistically this version of Canelo is sort of tailor made for Crawford in a way, in that Crawford has the skillset and the range to get in and out without allowing Canelo to set and load up with big shots. Long reaches are always going to give Canelo fits because if you can pepper Canelo from the outside without allowing Canelo to get inside on you, then you don't allow Canelo to impose his will with his heavy hands, and he can be outboxed. We've seen it before, we've seen it in spurts even in fights he won. I would be interested to see if a rematch comes about, if a more motivated Canelo after having been in with Crawford would do better. Canelo really needs to find ways to get inside on Crawford, trap him on the ropes, and unload on him. It's easier said than done but Canelo is a very talented fight, and I think he learned a lot about Crawford and how to attack that style after being in with him. Maybe he wasn't as well prepared as he thought he was. But you learn a lot from a match like that.

 

Considering he says Canelo just got old overnight, yes. Canelo dominated Berlanga and he is way bigger than Crawford. Canelo is unbeaten at 168, undisputed with a good resume, so the win is still elite. Usyks overall resume is better than Crawfords but don't play the double standards. Fury was the same age as Canelo, has a far worse resume, cherrypicked even more and scraped by a 37 year old mma fighter with no professional boxing experience getting dropped in the process right before he fought Usyk

 

Canelo looked reluctant in both Skull and Crawford fights. It seems he doesn't want to be there anymore.

He has tons of money, why keep training in the gym instead of spending his millions?

 

Came out plodding ? You mean Canelo fought like Canelo ? He's been flatfooted his whole career including all his high profile wins so that's just cope.

The asterisks with Fury are far worse not to mention Canelo is far greater than Fury. Fury's best win was 9 years prior and Canelo never retired for 2 years ballooning up in weight. Fury was already past his prime in his comeback. Fact. Struggling with Scull doesn't come close to struggling with Ngannou. It's not comparable. Heavyweights aging better is only marginally true, there isn't even a strong correlation between size and longevity in boxing. People are claiming aj is shot at 35 lmao

 

Canelo looking old and tired in a fight where his opponent made him work hard to land anything of significance is actually downplaying Crawfords tactics and ability to make Canelo miss.

Canelo never had an amazing gastank ever and still won his fights against Berlanga, Scull....not bad for a tired old man lol.

 

The more I think about this victory, the more I am convinced he's worthy of his p4p number 1 spot.

In the immediate aftermath I went with Usyk, but actually thats just because I feel Usyk is a greater fighter overall, not because of what Usyk has actually done lately.

This victory is worthy of a top spot. I was one of the few on here who predicted Crawford would good enough to overcome the size disparity, whilst also recognising who stacked the deck was in favour of Canelo.

The only thing you can say negative about Crawford's career is he scraped by Madrimov during his LMW pit stop

Crawford is a worthy p4p number 1, and ironically for all the reasons the TS has given before the fight.

 

Pretty ironic that the fight mentioned in the video (GGG/Canelo I which was 8 years ago, not 9 or 10) took place less than a month after Crawford had become the first undisputed champion in over a decade and 2 years after he became the lineal champion in his 2nd weight class.

Yes, Canelo had more wear and tear. Especially those first 24 rounds with GGG, they'd take a toll on anyone. But It's still a fact that he was the undisputed champion 2 divisions north, was coming off of a win over an undefeated titlist, as mediocre as the titlist was, and had only been beaten by the very best in different weight classes before. He lost because his opponent was the better fighter, no amount of spinning and coping will change that.

I do like p4p rankings, It's fun and educational to debate fighters accomplishments and levels at different weight classes. But that's just it, It's a list made for fun and promotional purposes. All this obsession and hissy fit over one guy being 1 place higher than the other makes no sense.

 

I still remeber the 30 days weigh ins for GGG/Brook, where Brook was 176lbs to Golovkin's 164 and looked like he wouldn't be at a disadvantage, we saw how that turned out.

Same thing with Canelo/Charlo, who's younger and bigger than Crawford. Charlo looked in damn good shape at the weigh ins, maybe even better than Canelo yet it didn't help him being completely outclassed, overpowered and looking utterly out of his depth.

Brook and Charlo lost to GGG and Canelo respectively because they were the inferior fighters, which was exactly the case with Nelo himself against Crawford.