Reality Check Time! Oleksandr Usyk is Still The P4P Number One Fighter On The Planet. This Is Why...

That's a whole ton of assumption with a dash of stupid.

Discrimination against discrimination is discrimination

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Nothing that makes any pretense at blind or random can be guided hence blind and random

Look how I do that without writing a novella.


You asked about numbers, got told a perfectly reasonable fact of the case, and are now reaching into laughably misguided assumptions about how judges are picked to rationalize not learning anything new.


One should expect more US judges than any other nation. Corruption or not.

Likewise, anyone who claims there's a bastion of uncorrupted boxing in this world is a mark's mark. Boxing is the dirtiest slut at the ball, ask Turki. Has Saudi dialed in their HR violations? Nah doe dog, just bought the slutty sports instead.


So if your whole moan is america must be corrupt doe, sure bud, didn't say it wasn't, but you should still expect more US judges than any other ya jamingo, they made the sport a world sport, duh. Was DK who invented the PPV, duh.

 

Crawford fighting in the USA should be a non issue since he never received any gifts from the judges and won all his fights without controversy negating the need for favoritism

 

Yeah, I don't know where that comes into it. Madrimov and Canelo were competitive, but hardly controversial. The rest were all clear wins for Crawford, mostly KO's.

Yes, the cards against Usyk for Fury 1 and Joshua 2 were shite, but in the end they don't matter. No one with a brain questions those wins.

The only controversial thing for any of their combined wins is the low blow landed by Dubois as far as I know. While I think the ref made the right call, he wouldn't have made it had he been biased against Usyk.

 

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I remember this being controversial.

 

Crawford wasn't given any extra time to recover and Kavaliauskas got drilled into the Canvas. What part of the result was controversial ?

 

Never said the result of the fight was. The poster I quoted said the low blow was the only controversial thing in the two fighter's careers, Crawford getting knocked down and having it counted as a slip is another.

 

I wouldn't say as controversial though, Crawford wasn't on the canvas for 5 minutes. The blow was below the belt and the correct calling, but did Dubois even hit Usyks cup ? I have my doubts

 

Doesn't really matter if it was as controversial, it still was.

 

Not like it would effect the outcome.

Many believe Dubois's punch was legit and that Usyk wouldn't have gotten up in time. I don't agree with either, but is is out there and not preposterous.

 

I guess a couple of his victims did a little something after losing to Usyk. But Huck didn't do anything of significance post-Usyk. Neither did Gassiev or Glowacki. Bellew straight up retired.

 

No. Just testing the waters of consistency here. And I think my point was clearly made.

 

Just to add to your comment.

Huck was 2-2 in his last 4 fights and was basically done at world level.

Fury was in his mid 30s and hadn't beaten a ranked Heavyweight since 2022 and alot felt he should've lost to an MMA fighter. Since losing to Usyk he's been avoiding a Joshua fight and hasn't done anything since.

Joshua has only beaten 1 top 10 ranled Heavyweight between 2020-2025 which is Wallin who realistically is not top 10 on a H2H basis or resume wise. Some would say Joshua was not the same since Ruiz bounced him around the ring either.

You can make any agenda you want and there's certainly holes you can pick in anyone's resume that includes Usyk or Crawford.

Realistically Usyk has beaten better opponents overall and I think his P4P achievements are a bit more impressive in regards to beating bigger Heavyweights.

But Crawford has alot more title wins and has 2 wins over opponents ranked in the top 10 P4P in Spence, Canelo, where as Usyk has 0 wins against any top 10 P4P fighter.

So I wouldn't say there's a definitive answer either way both fighters have arguments and you can make a case for both.

And funny thing is the fighters themselves are alot more respectful about it than fans arguing about on this forum. Because both fighters have said the other one is P4P number 1 and both men respect eachother alot.

 

Crawford is number 1 by far

Crawford just beat Canelo for undisputed at super middleweight

You guys just gotta let it go

 

I agree 100% with you. Just wanted to see what the Usyk boys had to say, or defend, about his resume, since they tend to trash TC's quite often. For me, I am a fan of both.

The thing about beating bigger HW's though, that's been done to death by guys in the 220-230 range for ages.