1965-67 Muhammad Ali defends his title against the following modern day heavyweights

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Ali vs
    Trevor Berbick
    Tommy Morrison
    Ray Mercer
    Bonecrusher Smith
    David Tua

    Does Ali keep his title or is he too small to defeat these dreadnoughts?
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tua and Morrison could maybe score a surprising knockdown out of nowhere as both had good left hooks which Ali was susceptible to.

    But outside of that Tua would lose a wide UD Ali would dance rings around him.

    Morrison doesn't have the chin or the gas tank and would get stopped between 8-10 rounds.

    Ali in poor health and totally shot had a semi competitive fight vs Berbick so no reason to think a prime Ali wouldn't win convincingly vs Berbick. But I'll give Berbick some credit unless you were a puncher and caught him cold he was normally pretty durable. Berbick went 15 rounds against a peak Holmes so I think Berbick could go the distance with Ali aswell.

    Mercer made Damiani look like Ali so no reason to think Ali wouldn't also dance rings around the plodding Mercer and win a wide UD.

    Bonecrusher is a crude slugger but pretty durable he loses convincingly but I think he goes the distance with Ali.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Mercer was a new and improved version of George Chuvalo. Chuvalo had some success against Ali in 1966 with his body work.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morrison - Ali via stoppage after maybe taking a flash knockdown.
    Berbick - Trevor lasts distance but Ali scores a shutout,winning at least twelve rounds.
    Mercer - as Berbick fight.
    Tua - out of them all Tua gives Muhammad the most competitive fight. Muhammad still wins by a clear margin over the distance though.
    Smith - Bonecrusher is durable enough to last the distance but loses virtually every round. But if a post-prime Holmes could cut him then there's an extremely good chance that prime Muhammad could. Therefore the bout is stopped.
     
  5. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I doubt any heavyweight in history could have beaten Ali during those years. Joe Louis was too stationary. I'd give Ezzard Charles an outside chance at an upset. Maybe 9-to-5. Or possibly Gene Tunney could figure something out. Edit: I just thought of another, possibly the most formidable opponent for prime Ali: The best version of Larry Holmes.
     
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holmes would have been a very worthy opponent for Muhammad. I would take a prime Ali to win by something like 9 - 6 in rounds to beat a prime Holmes. I would even tip a 1972-74 incarnation of Muhammad to edge the Easton assassin out over the distance provided he was in top shape. Even that version of The Greatest was still faster than Larry with feet and hands. Maybe split decision.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Ali sweeps this. Maybe gets knocked down once or twice but i don't see him losing any of these.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Berbick did beat Ali IRL
     
  9. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali 5-0 with absolute ease.
     
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  10. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jake Paul did beat Mike Tyson "IRL".
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is your definition of modern day heavyweights
     
  12. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? Are you trolling?

    Ali 5-0
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He did. And Michael Spinks couldn't. Something to think about right there.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Those are good fighters
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    He goes undefeated and in most cases emphatically
     
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