the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think we're all on the same page with minor differences. Awesome fight. Here is how I saw it:

    Sugar Ray Leonard v Tommy Hearns I (welterweight title unification)


    Round 1: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 2: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 3: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 4: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 5: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 6: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 7: 10-9 Leonard
    Round 8: 10-10 Even
    Round 9: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 10: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 11: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 12: 10-9 Hearns
    Round 13: 10-8 Leonard (scores a knockdown)
    Round 14: Leonard stops Hearns

    Total through 13 completed rounds: 125-122 Hearns (actual scores: 125-122, 124-122 and 125-121 Hearns at the time of stoppage)

    Man, I remember where I was and who I was with when watching this bout live. There was such energy surrounding this bout. Every little stumble-step we were screaming at. It was electric and fought at such a high-level that I thought it would be so very difficult to replicate. I never liked Leonard but backed him in this fight. I just thought Hearns' faults could be exposed by Leonard, but I was amazed it went this long. I thought Leonard would stop him in the middle rounds. I have grown to appreciate Leonard's talents over the years. But that aside, a terrific fight.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was at a basketball/hockey arena in the nearest bigger city (an hour away) that regularly did the closed circuit fights. I remember where my seat was — went with a local boxer and his father/trainer and another boxing fan who was friends with the father/trainer.

    It’s the best welterweight title fight in history imo. The shifts in fortune (and adjustments), the skill, the power, the will, the drama and two all-timers meeting in their prime … it’s about as perfect as a fight can be imo.

    It’s definitely on my ‘10 fights you’d take with you if you were stranded on a desert island and had a device to watch these and only these fights’ list.
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    A sad sight:
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    On the other hand, Andrew Maynard is one of my favorite non-champions.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never knew this was in its entirety. Here we go. Scored on the Midwest's 10 point system where winner of a round gets 6 and the loser 4 with a 5-5 for an even round.

    Jake LaMotta v Sugar Ray Robinson VI (middleweight title)

    Round 1: 6-4 LaMotta
    Round 2: 5-5 Even
    Round 3: 6-4 Robinson
    Round 4: 6-4 Robinson
    Round 5: 6-4 LaMotta
    Round 6: 6-4 LaMotta
    Round 7: 5-5 Even
    Round 8: 6-4 Robinson
    Round 9: 6-4 Robinson
    Round 10: 6-4 Robinson
    Round 11: 6-4 Robinson (Best round)
    Round 12: 7-3 Robinson (Battering)
    Round 13: Fight stopped in Robinson's favor

    Total through 12 completed rounds: 65-55 Robinson (actual scores: 65-55, 63-57 and 70-50 all for Robinson)

    I took a leap of faith that a round with a knockdown, or in this case, a very dominant round in the 12th, would be scored 7-3, staying in line with 10 points per round. Great seeing these two warriors in action. Robinson was so stylish and LaMotta was so dogged it made for a terrific fight but Robinson just took off after the 7th round and there was no stopping him. Jake gave a last ditch effort in the 11th but that was it and he was simply a target after that.
     
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  5. AntonioMartin1

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    I had it a shut out for Hamsho.

    Bobby Czyz fought a strange fight,. He tried to box like Macho Camacho and at times looked like he was on a fog which was very strange for him.

    In Rusty Rosemberg's book he says he was drugged by the Duva's before a fight that he lost.

    I wonder if something was up here too.

    Regardless, I admire Hamsho for his all out brawling, non stop action style.
     
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  6. Fireman Fred

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    Worst performance of Czyz´s career and considering he won world titles at light-heavy and cruiserweight and stood toe to toe with punchers like Tim Broady (tremendous fight), Willie Edwards (got off the floor to ko the man who koed an old Saad Muhammad and future champ Donny Lalonde), Jim MacDonald (briefly stunned Michael Spinks).

    Bobby says that he hurt his hand in the second round of that fight against Hamsho´s hard head. Unfortunately Czyz´s father committed suicide shortly after this fight as well.
     
  7. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Hi my friend!

    That is unfortunate but having watched the movie about Czyz's life, it seems they had a difficult relationship. Czyz's dad and Tonya Harding's mom, it seems, would have been a perfect couple. Parents who wanted trophies more than a normal family life.

    God bless you!
     
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  8. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what I wrote when I viewed it awhile back:

    Saw it live but I wanted another gander as I did see it originally amidst a bunch of friends and booze. Strangely enough, although this fight was fought on the undercard of the Qawi-Davis world title fight - which was scored on the WBC 10 point system - this bout was fought under NJ rules on a rounds basis. Here we go.

    Round 1: Even
    Round 2: Czyz
    Round 3: Hamsho
    Round 4: Hamsho
    Round 5: Czyz
    Round 6: Hamsho
    Round 7: Hamsho
    Round 8: Czyz (This was Hamsho's round but he loses the round due to roughousing with the forearm. In NJ and NY's rounds scoring, if someone is penalized, obviously they don't lose a point, the round simply goes to the opponent. If the opponent won the round anyway, there is no penalization. A very flawed system)
    Round 9: Hamsho
    Round 10: Hamsho

    Total: 6-3-1 Hamsho (Actual scores: 7-3, 7-1-2 and 5-4-1 all for Hamsho)

    Czyz simply couldn't do much against Hamsho's mugging style. A little too much too soon, but he showed guts with the hammering he took in close. A very lively 10 rounder which moved very quickly.
     
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  9. AntonioMartin1

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    I went looking for Johnny Tapia vs. Sandro Marcos and found this little gem instead:
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks to @Flo_Raiden for putting this on our radar.

    Alejandro Gonzalez v Tony Green (featherweight title)

    Round 1: 10-8 Gonzalez (scores a knockdown)
    Round 2: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 3: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 6: 10-9 Green
    Round 7: 10-8 Gonzalez (scores a knockdown)
    Round 8: 10-8 Gonzalez (point deduction on Green for a low blow)
    Round 9: Gonzalez stops Green

    Total: 79-71 Gonzalez (actual scores: 79-70, 79-70 and 80-70 all for Gonzalez)

    Let me just preface this by saying, don't let the scores fool you. Tony Green was in every round and these two exchanged briskly some beautiful, sharp combos throughout the fight. It's just that Gonzalez was a little better in every department. But it made for an entertaining and competitive fight.
     
  11. AntonioMartin1

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    Great fight! Jones was winning..close but winning..and then boom! He looked like he was drunk at the club dancing at high seas!
     
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  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Antonio, have you ever seen Johnny's fight with Henry Martinez? Excellent fight and very competitive.
     
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  13. WBAMitch

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    I watched a few more recent ones today from current world champions.

    Keyshawn Davis vs Miguel Madueno -
    Now this one was an entertaining one sided fight, worth a watch. Davis is just pinging Madueno every round, Madueno’s head looks quite big and just willing to take the shots all night. Rough fight, full of dirty tricks, Madueno caught the ref who was worked up which was amusing to watch. Davis can hold his own with the tricks though and ultimately I think this proved to be a valuable experience to get him ready for his title run. I thought he was very composed and skilled but now looks to be carrying more size and menace in his shots.

    Another pre title fight, Xander Zayas vs Jorge Fortea, a little less flashy than Keyshawn but at 21 really looked to have a presence about him, I’ve got a bit to catch up on with him, so hard to judge too much. Tidy performance though.
     
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  14. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I saw it! That was wild!
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    I always loved watching Baby Jones.

    Good find!
     
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