Ranking the most skilled southpaws today: Usyk, Crawford, Bam, Shakur, Nakatani

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Feel free to take issue with my post... but I'm a middle aged man who rarely watches basketball and doesn't like rap. You seem to have confused me for some 20 year old bro posting from a frat house.

    ... and for the record, I prefer aggressive fighters, so while I respect Shakur and have a high opinion of him, you'll never catch me saying he's one of the guys I get particularly excited to watch fight.
     
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    press X to doubt.

    you add these asterisks to minimize the placing of certain fighters, while propping up other certain fighters with worse resumes, worse performances, less skills...

    hmm...

    okay buddy. you literally made an NBA aside in your original post.
    continue to watch DEI prospects paraded as "elites" because otherwise, you'll never watch boxing again.
     
  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this discussion was about skill, not necessarily resumes. if it's resume, then Usyk is #1 and Crawford is #2. i made an NBA aside because my post had me thinking about big guys vs little guys, and the NBA is only big guys.

    what in the blue **** are you talking about with DEI? who is a "DEI prospect"? Shakur? Nakatani? I have no idea what you're even trying to say.

    once again, you seem to believe you're arguing with a young man who has seen about 3 fights in his short life. i'm a stone's throw from 50 and have watched every big card since before I can remember (literally, as my father is a boxing fan). am i the most studied fan with the best insight? hell no, don't claim to be. but I post in good faith.
     
  4. glass shatters

    glass shatters New Member banned Full Member

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    anyone can look good bashing tin cans so resumes do matter here. So Crawford, Stevenson, Nakatani automatically on the bottom.

    What Stevenson does isnt even boxing, just corruption.
    Funny how the "hit and not get hit" guys changed their motto, now its all "give shutout to guy running laps landing nothing thats not love taps on the gloves". Sh@t confuses even the judges sometimes when the opponent shares certain physical similarities with Stevenson like the De Los Santos fight, where they didn't know what the f@ck to score because nothing happened.

    Theres a very large group of people, like you, that want to artificially make boxing look like basketball, but he will fail.


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    this is literally DEI
     
  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That comment by Turki about wanting a black champ is asinine. I couldn't care less about the color of a man's skin. Muhammad Ali, great. Oleksander Usyk, great. Roberto Duran, great.

    Ok so of those on the list here, how do you rank them? Usyk #1, Bam #2? Or if you like aggression, I guess you might have Bam at #1? I can't hate on that -- check my post history, I'm a big fan of Bam. He's from my state, great fun to watch because he never lets up, never stops trying for a KO.

    As to Stevenson, sorry, I just disagree, I think he's highly talented, the first guy since Mayweather who can successfully pull off that defensive style in a similar fashion.

    And -- **** -- I don't want boxing to look like basketball. **** me. Check my post history. I'm the guy who has posted like 5x how the best HW fight that can be made at the moment is Kabayel-Bakole! Best technical fight? Lol, no. Best pure drag out war that doesn't need a judge because there's no way it goes to the cards? Absolutely. I'm the guy who is a fan of the calm buttoned up guys, not the ones who act like asshats at press conferences. I've posted here and there about what an asshat Muhammad Ali acted like to Joe Frazier and why it was terrible.

    Settle down. Whoever you think I am, I'm not that guy.
     
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  6. lion000000

    lion000000 New Member Full Member

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    Crawford isn't a southpaw.
     
  7. Barrf

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    he fights as one
     
  8. Serge

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    Usyk is having to use his skills to overcome huge physical advantages against much bigger opponents who are murderous punchers or hit very hard, especially given how power is magnified when you're fighting much or way smaller opponents

    And he's doing it in their backyards on a deck stacked against him or on the road

    He's playing Russian roulette with 2 bullets in the chamber and he's not running or ever stinking out the show, holding like an octopus or scared to engage even though there's a far higher degree of risk and danger for him than the others

    All the others are very skilled too but they're fighting guys their size or who they're bigger than not much or way bigger than them and most are doing it at home exclusively

    It's fair to say he is not in his prime and he has declined a lot with age and almost all the others are young and in their primes but is beating a much smaller Valdez, same size Herring, Zepeda and Dos Santos in your backyard/country even remotely comparable to what Usyk has been doing in his mid to late 30s?

    I think Shakur is highly skilled, one of the most skilled in the sport, and an excellent boxer but let's not forget Bivol never received the respect for his defensive prowess like ''defensive master'' Shakur long has even though he literally gets hit less than anyone else in the sport and it's the same when it comes to Usyk, regarding not receiving enough credit and respect for his defensive prowess
     
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    bam is the most complete. he has less holes in his game than the rest. his high aggression approach to applying pressure raises the chances of him getting caught. but from a coaching standpoint, watching what you want to teach being applied in the ring, bam is flying at a higher altitude right now. its like he has all the knowledge that these old masters have, but he still has the young body to raise that knowledge a level.
     
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    The **** are you talking about?
     
  11. like a boss

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    Welcome to boxing. Now start watching some fights and see if you can learn anything. Start with Crawford and learn that he is a southpaw.

    Oh, and good luck with 4th grade son.
     
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  12. lion000000

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    Crawfo9rd isn't a southpaw. That's a fact. He's orthodox. Southpaw is just a tool he uses depending on the matchup.

    Shakur is also right handed. But he's a southpaw. Because he only fights southpaw. See the difference.
     
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    Sawn Porter is the only man to ever fight both Crawford and Usyk. Porter fought Usyk as an amateur and Crawford as a professional.

    "When we fought, Usyk was a southpaw, a tall rangy counter puncher, he wasn’t a dig to the body type of guy. He’s a well-rounded fighter but he can’t do everything, Terence can do everything. I’ve never been in the ring with somebody, who had it all. That’s what makes him the best fighter I’ve been in the ring with.”
     
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    Crawford is a southpaw - right foot forward stance - but he can switch hit to orthodox as required. Yes, he was born right handed but he fights as a southpaw.

    If you watch any of Crawford's fights you will see that for yourself. It's not rocket science. Just watch which foot he has forward in his stance. Right foot forward means southpaw.
     
  15. lion000000

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    I've seen every professional fight he's ever had. No matter how many times you say something it doesn't make it true. Crawford is not a southpaw. He fought MOST of his career orthodox. Southpaw is simply a tool depending on the matchup. He mostly uses southpaw when the other fight has a food jab. That's how he takes it away. He's won titles and undisputed in both orthodox and southpaw. He's knocked out people in both stances. Like i said. It's a tool for him.