Agit Kabayal vs Nelson Hysa set for January 10 in Oberhausen

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxerMaurits, Sep 28, 2025 at 8:41 AM.

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Who wins?

  1. Agit Kabayal

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  2. Nelson Hysa

    7.0%
  1. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mismatch
     
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  2. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    Right now, Kabayel doesn't bring much money without Turki involved, and the WBC interim isn't worth a whole lot with Usyk dragging his defenses out. And also because the WBC isn't that good at enforcing them.

    Any fighter who would be willing to take the risk for that mandatory shot is not going to be bring enough money for Kabayel to take the risk of fighting them when he already has the mandatory.
     
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  3. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    I think there are few calling out either kabayel or parker right now. Did I miss anyone? Hard for them from a risk reward perspective. Even harder for kabayel. They have to pay their opponents for their loss...
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Equally, Kabayel is miles away from Parker in the "deserves it" stakes, and brings no guarantee of any significant legacy value to make Usyk want to fight him, in part because he wasted years fighting bums...

    So, when he's free to build a bit more of a fanbase and build up his drawing power - and just as importantly, to make a good fight (with mando as a draw) and build up his resume and thereby his ability to appeal to Usyk on legacy grounds... What does he do?

    Simple - he runs straight back to Germany to pick a fight with a bum... Proving he can't be trusted not to waste the ability to make good fights and build legacy, and wasting an opportunity to build up the ability to earn better.

    It's absolute ****ing genius when you think about it - whilst your main rival for a title shot is taking on someone who'd easily make your top 3, you go and fight someone who wouldn't make his top ten... That'll show him.

    He deserves to be avoided by Usyk if this is what he thinks is a good move.
     
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  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Kabayel has fought "decent" opponents. Now he's fighting an undefeated HW prospect(can crusher sure) with amateur pedigree when he could just sit on his ass and wait his turn for a title shot. He and Parker are both staying active. Both are risking their mandatory status against undefeated big punchers. Stop complaining. The HW division is more exciting than it's been in a long time - because prospects are actually fighting one another and top challengers are risking their mandatory status'
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Never said he hasn't.

    Precious few, though - Zhang and Chisora are good wins.
    Makh and Sanchez are decent but nothing special.

    After that his resume is a bargain basement special.

    As far as keep busy fights go, a completely unproven guy with a long record of crushing jobbers isn't really too far removed from sitting on his ass waiting for his turn.

    Like I said - I'd like to see him take on a "remotely competitive fight"... And there's absolutely no reason to think this is anything of the sort.

    Parker is fighting someone who would realistically break into Kabayel's top 3... Kabayel is fighting someone who wouldn't realistically get into Parker's top ten.

    Very different.


    It's a very underwhelming fight - no amount of baseless hype polishes that turd.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm officially diagnosing you with Kabayel Derangement Syndrome.:sisi1
     
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I just wish he was showing some guts and continuing the much improved run he'd been on...
    For a guy who wasted years and years on bums, it shouldn't be too much to ask for that he leaves that **** behind and fights some half decent opponents - I'm really disappointed that it appears that it actually is.

    So many people just won't call it what it is...

    And in all honesty, he deserves Usyk to ignore him if he's going backwards instead of strengthening his case (which is decent and better than most, but a long way from overwhelming).
     
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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel bad for Hysa’s liver.
     
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  10. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    well , kabayel brings enough legacy that usyk will imho make sure NOT to fight him since he has the potential to punch usyk the ukrainian colours into his belly , liver and ribs .

    Sanctioning bodies , ring and any boxing experts agree that kabayel is currently top tier world class and probably the most feared guy of the division .
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm sure he'd be more than happy to do that, but I don't see anyone beating down his door wanting to fight him. In the span of 14 months he went from being, who cares about that record padding bum, I won't make any money fighting him, to... **** that, it's not worth it!:eek::lol:
     
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    He has been peddling that zero and found a buyer. Hope it’s worth it cause he’s getting knocked out.
     
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  13. BubblesUK

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    Would he though?
    I don't really see a huge amount of evidence he would, and plenty of circumstantial evidence he's quite happy not to.

    As for the classic avoided fighter trope... I don't see a reputation any scarier than, say, Wilder's was at it's peak, or Zhang's for that matter, and guys were more than happy to fight them (and it's not like they were cashcows either, really) - I don't buy that nobody is interested in the ranking they'd get for beating him, if they could.

    I mean, it's certainly true he went from a bumfighter who'd beaten Chisora in the distant past (and was considered a joke when touted as a potential AJ or Fury opponent) to a guy broadly considered the second most deserving of a shot at Usyk... That's quite a transformation.

    But avoided, I just don't buy it - never do, really.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If Kabayel is not clearly the 2nd most deserving of the opportunity to challenge Usyk, who is?
     
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  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    To be fair, I didn't say he isn't... Just that it's a big transformation.

    I have him a lot further away from Parker than most in the deserving stakes, but still clear second - to me that highlights how thin the division has become at the top end lately.
     
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