Dana White announces Zuffa Boxing will have its own belt and will NOT recognize the other bodies

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  1. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously because anyone can fight for that belt & the sanctioning body is supposed to be neutral in theory at least

    Here the promoter will be coming up with his own trinket & doing his own rankings. Do we want Top Rank coming out with a TR belt & TR rankings? Then why would we want this joke?

    Dana White is a clown who promotes absolute garbage like Power slap when left to his own devices & doesn't have big money backing him. He pushes his pet project of power slap through UFC also

    That's exactly what boxing needs, boxing events in an empty warehouse called the apex filled with no names & Dana constantly being shoved in our face along with ad's for power slap, UFC, & WWE mixed into it
     
  2. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Lets wait how it develops . Dana and turki want fights and the best athlete to win in a sporting event which is a good thing .

    Wbo currently really has hit the bottom granting usyk an absolute ridiculous injury extension to even negotiate and announce a title defence .

    When dana and turki can stop this rubbish i,m pro it .
     
  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the UFC Dana White has done the same thing you're blaming the WBO for multiple times.
     
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  4. mpg

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    The very simple reason Dana White's boxing venture will fail is this: Boxing is about top level talent and top level boxing talent demands very high purses. He is unwilling to pay high purses, so he will only attract subpar talent. People don't want to watch subpar fighters.
     
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  5. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Just use the Z belt owned by Charlie Zelenoff.
     
  6. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    While UFC has had some freak title fights, boxing has had plenty of its own and by and large UFC has been much better at making sure the best fight the best. People in the top 10/5 5 fight each other ALL the time, whereas in boxing it's a rarity.

    Say what you will, but UFC has functioned much more like a properly ranked sport than boxing with its alphabet titles, favouritism, and whack rankings.
     
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  7. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Err by definition a promoter ranking his own fighters involves a conflict of interest which makes the rankings pretty much worthless. Why would I trust Bob Arum to rank his own fighters? I know it is claimed that "media members" do these rankings but the quality of MMA "media" is Nina Marie & John Morgan

    Boxing also had a 100 year+ history during which the mob ran it through IBC (IBC was the UFC of boxing), it survived both world wars (catch as catch the precursor to modern MMA didn't, it died after WW1), the great depression, & the cold war (when Soviet bloc fighters couldn't even turn pro). Let's check back how many freakshows & other scandals are there in UFC by 2090's (if its even around)
     
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  8. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    The kind of control UFC exerts on MMA "media" is shown by what happened to bloodyelbow that used to do excellent reporting about the UFC anti trust lawsuit & did painstaking research into fighter payouts based on the case documents

    One fine day someone bought it out, fired everyone, & purged the entire website. I wonder who would do such a thing?

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    Its through their articles that we got to know Conor's top payout was 6 or 7 million (certainly < 10 mill as I recall) not the gross exaggerations of 30 million+ that Forbes was reporting

    You can now only find their articles on the wayback machine while the current bloodyelbow website is full of AI slop articles

    In this kind of landscape its pretty easy to "manufacture consent" about rankings & that the newest "star" is TBE because Joe Rogan said so. Boxing fans have more discretion than that
     
  9. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At the start "boxing fans have discretion". They know whose good and rankings won't tell them otherwise. But as the years pass they will lose this frame of reference.

    An MMA example is Fedor Emelianenko who didn't sign with the UFC after they merged with Pride. Attempts to brand other HWs as better then him were met with an eye roll. But a few years later any champ outside of the UFC would be seen as inferior. Fighters need to beat other proven fighters to prove their legitimacy and by depriving the outside fighters of the opponents to do this no fighter can "prove themelves".

    The UFC or "UBO" can also just choose to get rid of fighters they don't like. In many cases its somewhat tied to merit but in the case of Demetrious Johnson it was basically "we hate you, you're boring". If they don't want an elite fighter or don't want to pay an elite fighter they can just kick them out with total discretion.
     
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    WBC is not happy with White downplaying the Ali act
     
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  11. 70sFan

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    Just call it the RBC (Ring World Champion) instead that silly Zuffa name. Supposedly they are using the ring ratings anyway. I still haven’t decided yet if Dana White is the lesser of two evils. I could never stand all these organizations with all their different champions and all their secondary belts. In the old days, for the most part, you had the champions in each division and the contenders and “Number 1 Contender” meant something. I guess we’ll have to see what happens. Boxing is in trouble, it needs exposure to bring in new fans. Maybe Dana/Turki can make it happen.
     
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  12. james5000

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    Champions will make the belts in the long run, they will need big names to come to their side to be legit.
    Or grow their own, either way its a lot harder to do than in MMA
     
  13. Dangerwood84

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    The WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO have ****ed boxers and fans all over the world for decades. I honestly could not give a **** what the belt was called. As long as there's only one in each weight class and the number of weight classes is cut by at least half the number that we currently have.
    One belt, 8 weight classes, every champion a globally recognised name.
     
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  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Champions do make belts but when you have champs like Tank fighting Jake Paul, Boxing has issues outside of Dana White.

    Crawford is a champ who didn't became a big name until his career was almost done.
     
  15. Diagoras

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    "The best fight the best" everyone

    General tenor of the comments (like 90%) indicated by these 2 samples

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    Looking forward to Bivol being called a cowardly runner (for the Beterbiev fights) becoming the dominant fan opinion when Dana White brings the "best fight the best" to boxing