Reality Check Time! Oleksandr Usyk is Still The P4P Number One Fighter On The Planet. This Is Why...

Fury was literally in better shape against Ngannou compared to the Usyk rematch that he trained for, stop the excuses. Any journeyman would flatten Ngannou inside of 2 rounds, your deflection hypotheticals will never change reality, Fury went life and death with an old mma fighter who went pro at 40 years of age, was on his debut and never won a single professional boxing match. The select 3 people liking you comments are delusional and they know who they are.

You still have the audacity to claim Fury is a better win than the far greater Canelo due to size when not only is Fury NOT a power puncher but we've seen a featherfisted cruiserweight who weighed less than Usyk put Tyson on his ass and steal several rounds on the cards.

 

P4P is subjective BS.. I'll debate it when I'm bored but i don't put too much stock in it.. but if we're judging who’s conquered real disadvantages then Usyk wipes the floor with Crawford..

Crawford's never been the little guy at any time.. his walk around weight has hovered in the 180s for years, even pushing 185 during camp prep.. That's a natural MW/SMW frame yet he's spent most of his career boiling down.. Check his weigh in history against guys like Gamboa or more recently Madrimov.. He's a classic weight grifter dominating smaller divisions by cutting hard, then moving up only when it suits him..

Flip to Usyk.. since jumping to HW he's been outweighed every damn time. That's not just skill.. that's overcoming height, reach & power gaps that Crawford's never sniffed.

They'll argue that Crawfords opposition is more skilled, but smaller fighters are generally more mobile & adaptive than HWs.. if Crawford & Canelo were HWs they'd be different fighter's themselves.

Then we have SNAC.. Conte's shady rapid weight cut program, which screams "advantage" for a guy like Crawford who's mastered draining to dominate lower classes. Usyk is King. P4P is fiction.. the reality is tbe Ukrainian beats any current boxer operating today. Crawford doesn't.

 

Oh so he was within a whisker of actually having a good resume and becoming undisputed like Lewis ? Is that what you mean Serge ? Fury needs to get his resume up and stop getting beat up by featherfisted cruiserweights and mma fighters before he's even in the conversation. Canelo is overrated, Fury is even more overrated, just as past it at 35 years of age and a bigger cherrypicker. That's all there is to it

 

For guys with deep resumes we have enough quality wins to show that bad performances were not necessary indicative of their abilities. With Fury his resume is so thin that we can't be confident the bad performances weren't simply indicative of him not being very good.

His claim to fame is beating Wilder and a faded Wlad who never won a subsequent fight and was almost 40. Neither of those wins gives me a lot of confidence in his abilities.

The Wlad win may be a case of Wlad being past it slower and not willing to let his hands go plus his jab and grab style not being effective against a taller guy with a longer reach who was reasonably athletic. Wilder has a terrible resume so we have no idea how good he actually is making it hard to assess the wins value.

 

And very good points BTW. I’ll never understand the level of stupidity some will go to (It’s easier for some though apparently) just to desperately try and discredit great boxers who were awesome ambassadors for the sport. Makes no sense!

Klitschko NEVER beat women or had to be held at gun point by the cops! He NEVER tests positive for PEDs or had any red flags that brought on suspicion. Class act both in and out of the ring.

 

Just like you've been doing with Crawford ? A bunch of sniveling hypocrites

The Fury/Ngannou fight was an utter embarrassment to the entire sport of boxing. Great ambassador for the sport my ass.

 

I'm liking this comment because I'm deluded and one of the 3

 

These heavyweights keep underperforming against much smaller opponents. If their size is such an advantage that shouldn't be the case should it?

Why didn't Dubois physical advantages help him more vs Lerena or Joshuas against Dubois or Fury vs Cunningham and Wilder.

How do you explain Usyk stopping Dubois and nearly taking out Joshua and Fury but not being able to hurt cruiserweight like Breidis or Gassiev?

 

It wouldn’t even be remotely competitive, and it really says a lot because Usyk is one of the best MMA-suited boxers.

 

You should ACTUALLY do the research, Liston was in prison for armed burglary, an incident in which no one got injured. There isn’t a single recorded incident of him ever physically harming anyone beyond throwing punches, not everyone has the courage to take somebody’s life away.

There also isn’t a single proof of Liston actually being a mob enforcer, just some rumours and even if he was, it doesn’t make him tough, it just means he is capable of beating up and scaring poor citizens.

I’m sick of literal criminal scum getting respect and being treated as “hardened men” only for good people to be automatically brushed aside. Liston wasn’t a “hard man”, he was a street rat. He’s not gonna kill Ngannou just because he slapped up a few cops and citizens half his size, he gets dunked on his neck and dies, end of story.

 

He injured a cop if I recall and took his gun