Do you consider Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua to be all time greats ?

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  1. Yes

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    9.5%

  2. Lol no

    67 vote(s)
    90.5%
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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    NO
     
    robert ungurean, Oct 2, 2025 at 5:32 AM
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  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They beat old man Klitschko. Neither would stand a chance versus a prime Wlad or Vit.
     
    fencik45, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:12 PM
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  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You'd be a moron then. Usyk carried Chisora because he knew if he destroyed Chisora no amount of money would have ever gotten Fury to the ring. Fury ducked every decent live body his whole career who wasn't washed up. Chisora and bum ass Wilder is a pathetic mantle to hang your hat on.
     
    fencik45, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:26 PM
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I have no doubt that Fury and AJ both get into the IBHOF. Wilder, too
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 2, 2025 at 3:06 PM
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  5. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Active Member Full Member

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    Vitali K is light-years ahead of Fury on every measuring stick: legacy, resume, ability, and ATG ranking. Vitali could scrape in the top 10 HW's ever and is on a level with Usyk, not Fury, especially that career-ending run of 12 title defences, 10 of which were against fighters ranked in the top 10. I'd struggle to place Fury in the top 20 due to his inconsistency and inactivity. I also wouldn't have him above Bowe either. Bowe would've smoked Fury.
     
    TNSNO1878, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:12 PM
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  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury yes. He went into back yards and fought the fights when they mattered.

    Joshua no. More of a cash cow with a synthetic resume.
     
    Slyk, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:37 PM
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  7. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    And yet AJ has the more impressive resume.
     
    MixedMartialLaw, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:46 PM
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  8. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Wilder really wouldn't deserve it.
     
    deyell, Oct 3, 2025 at 12:32 PM
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  9. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury has 2 names on the resume and both have a Asterix next to them.

    Wlad - was old and never won another fight.
    Wilder - who potentially was never any good.
     
    Jab in the Face, Oct 4, 2025 at 4:58 AM
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  10. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hilarious, Fury fought bums and old men. Nothing else.
     
    fencik45, Oct 4, 2025 at 7:15 AM
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you don't mind me asking but why do you have Fury above Vitali.
    I'm not saying that is wrong or right but wondered what you thought
    Vitalis resume is good with the wins below

    - WBO HW champion H Hide
    - WBC HW champion S Peters
    - Former WBO HW champion C Sanders (didn't lose WBO title in the ring)
    - Former WBO HW champion S Briggs
    - Future WBA regular HW champion M Charr
    - Former WBC CW champion Gomez
    - Former WBC LHW and Former Ring and IBF CW champion T Adamek
    - C Arreola
    - K Johnson
    - T Hoffman
    - A Sosnowski
    - D Chisora
    - D Williams
    - Former WBA CW champion O Norris
     
    bailey, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:59 AM
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    To be fair, it wouldn't have been easy as many held Fury as lineal when he wasn't fighting for a period of time.
    Joshua did win all the belts Fury relinquished
     
    bailey, Oct 5, 2025 at 7:02 AM
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua only turned pro, late 2013
    Why do you think it means anything that his team were not looking to pit him in against Wladimir at that time?
    He had only had 10 fights at the start of 2015
     
    bailey, Oct 5, 2025 at 7:09 AM
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