Sugar Ray Leonard is the h2h goat at 147, he comprehensively beats Robinson

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Leonard with more movement had to cope with a lethargic fat Duran for 8 rounds to only win by a 1, 2 and 2 point differences in the scorecard (ignoring No Mas)

 

Ok Markus since you don't seem to include context in hindsight then we might just call this a day.

 

The best of Ray Robinson was a tad better in almost every aspect of boxing than Ray Leonard.
And he should be, he fought much more frequently, and was much more consistent. In a sport 80%- 90% about repetition .
But physically they were about the same. They could do anything in a boxing ring they wanted to do.
So for me it always will be , Robinson, Leonard, and Hearns in that order at welterweight head to head. Though of course many welterweights had more title defenses.

 

Imagine a trilogy between SRR 46-49 and Hearns 81-84.... Mouthwatering to say the least.

 

The best SRR is a hybrid of SRL and Hearns.

He has the jab and feet to box with Leonard, the speed to box with Leonard but he also has the one punch power and combination punching power and fluidity to leave Leonard having to try to negotiate to the inside to go to war. The difference is that Robbi was infinitely better on the inside than Hearns and threw combinations with vicious fury to body and head in retaliation. He was also significantly more durable than Hearns.

It's about the closest of the closest a fight that you might hope for but I would back Robbi to do what Hearns couldn't finish when Leonard caught him and put him on drunk legs street.

 

That would have been brilliant to watch.

 

Leonard isn’t the #2 147lber even, Leonard’s up there but H2H he may not even make the top 10… MAY - Napoles was a level above him, Griffith, Burley, Armstrong, Ross, Robinson… there have been guys at his level of skill throughout history but not Robi, I’d be interested to even see how he’d do with Mayweather. I don’t think FMW beats him just be interested to see it - Curry, Oscar, Starling, Mayweather are all probably on a similar or not too distant shelf to Leonard at there H2H best.

 

Never understood the love for Hearns at 147lbs, just sort of a weight bully for my 0.2$ his greatest skill was just being silly big the way Oscar was at the lower weights… someone like Napoles would KO him IMO.

EDIT: come to think of it, it’s a trademark of the Steward fighters to perform miracles at the scales… Gerald, Moorer and Hearns.

 

Brilliant mate!

 

Silly big? Did he weigh twice as much as his opponents?

No. He was taller so had to stretch his weight over a bigger frame giving him significant disadvantages in strength, durability and balance. It's why boxing has weight classes not height classes.

McLellan and Moorer operated in the days of day before weigh-ins. Totally different from Tommy's prime when he weighed in on the morning of the fight. If he'd had to lose a huge amount of weight he would have had about 12 hours to replenish it. That is not an advantageous position to be in.

 

Hearns actually weighed less than Leonard at the same day weigh-in for the first fight.

 

I'm really not convinced by all this weight bully talk. Even in the days of weigh ins 36 hours before the fights, You hear talk of fighters weighing 30 lbs more than when they weighed in 36 hours previously or nearly 20% of their weight.

A) I'm skeptical about that and B) I honestly doubt that I'd be at my athletic best if I'd added 30lbs in the 36 hours since weigh in and/or spent weeks starving myself to reach an unnaturally low weight.