The reality of Crawford's victory over Canelo explained in one minute

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo has a ton of wear and tear on him. 67 recorded pro fights, at least 10 more non-recorded pro fights as per his manager, and god knows how many gym wars. I’d bet all his joints and ligaments look like ass on an MRI.

    But here, I think Bud was just that good. The only time I can really recall someone’s reach advantage really being an advantage over Canelo, in the past it never mattered and he could close anyway. Here, every time he tried, Crawford made him pay for it.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Im saying he's an excuse maker. Im sure he picked canelo to win and when he didnt deliver he made an excuse and tried to discredit and downplay Crawford's win. Mario wasnt saying any of this stuff before the fight now was he?
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Looks like the excuses was always going to be on the table should Canelo lose but the truth is that Crawford was still the one moving up and the older fighter of the two no matter how you slice it. People were willing to not give Canelo credit should he win and now that the results turned out differently people are now not giving Crawford full credit for winning. You really can't please anyone no matter what the results ended up being.

    Crawford deserves all the praise for beating Canelo who was never beaten at 168 and there should be no excuses to take away from that victory period.
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree,,
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I picked Canelo as well, and Canelo did look old in my opinion
     
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  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    For mine that did not look like how Canelo always fights. As pointed out in the video he was hardly using the jab, he may have been flat footed before but this to me looked like slow plodding like he legs couldn't do what he wanted them to do.

    I disagree with your assessment of Fury. Fury was an elite heavyweight he is discredited more for rubbing people the wrong way with his personality. A guy with his dimensions, movement and heart is extremely difficult to beat when he is switched on and Usyk did that. For mine prime Fury is better than Canelo the fact that he got off the couch and beat Wilder is incredible. Discredit Wilder all you like but at the time he was seen as a killer. Heavyweights aging better is not marginally true it's tried and true. The fact that Wlad could hang with prime AJ when he was over 40 and almost beat him. My man Lucas Browne destroying a couple of guys while in his mid 40's, Zhang taking out the much feared Joyce at the time of their fights. Plenty of examples lad.

    It was harder to gauge Canelo seeing a lot of his past opponents like Scull and Charlo were intimidated by him and refused to engage. I give Crawford the credit for not being intimidated I even said before the fight that would be his downfall but he proved me wrong on that account.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Crawford took his jab away and his footwork was top notch. Canelo looked the exact same as he was against Charlo who he dominated. They weren't intimidated because they felt the power of Canelo and aren't as good as Crawford. We saw Munguia brawl it out with Canelo, he wasn't scared, already a world champion and undefeated. Canelo taxed him

    Fury was not in his prime. He didn't get off the couch to beat Wilder, he had multiple tune ups because he had to lose over 100 pounds after abusing drugs for 2 years. Prime Fury was in the rear view mirror way before he fought Usyk

    Larger fighters aging better is not tried and true. It's only marginally true. Lara is 41 and still a world champion. Beterbiev beat Bivol at 39 years and 8 months old. Briedis gave Opetaia hell twice in his late 30s. Pacquiao beat Thurman at 40. Crawford just beat Canelo at 38. Hopkins was beating ranked guys in his 40s. Duran was 37 against Barkley. Lucas Browne beat no top guys lmao why would you even mention that. Maybe heavyweights seem to age better because lower weight classes will have a higher talent pool most of the time

    Interesting you cite Wilder who is largely unproven against the world class and only beat 1 ranked contender in his entire career. That's how overrated Fury's resume is.
     
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  8. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I guess we are going back and fourth bringing up the same things now and we still disagree. I believe Fury was a better win you believe Canelo was. That's fine. I brought up Browne because he is from my city and I think it shows that age at heavyweight is less of a factor at all levels. All the guys you brought up from the lower weights were elite. I agree that the lighter weights have a better talent pool but Usyk beat the regarded top two guys at heavyweight and also the best guys at Cruiserweight. My opinion is Usyk has faced greater danger in regards to opposition and fighting away from home. This is why I rate him above Crawford.
     
  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    I predicted it would be so easy people would say canelo took the money and let him win. In what world did anybody think that manufactured bum could beat a real fighter?
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You made a great call props on getting it right.
     
  11. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right, it's still a three horse race. If Crawford is ahead it's by a whisker. The 'P4P King' narrative doesn't hold. For one to be king the other two would have to lose first, and clearly.

    Usyk, for my money, has beaten the higher volume of good fighters. That matters more.

    Inoue is scheduled to face a prime top ten P4P'dr in Nakatani next year.

    People saying it's been settled and this is the crawford era have both short memories and zero foresight.
     
  12. Cyrion

    Cyrion New Member Full Member

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    Well there was one. But Canelo made sure to run and hide from him while badmouthing him and claiming the guy didn't deserve to fight him.
     
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  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Canelo has more wear and tear on his body fighting in higher weightclasses and for longer periods, it's not just about age. Canelo should retire, he is past his prime and is ripe for another beating.
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    All respect to Crawford, it takes elite talent to do what he did regardless of how you put it. That being said, it’s clear that Canelo has far more wear and tear. Almost 70 fights and a good chunk of them have been against guys who are heavy punchers and men much bigger than him. Crawford has always been the bigger and better man in the lower divisions so he rarely had to go through any fire like Canelo did. It’s delusional to think Canelo was the fresher guy in there.
     
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  15. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.

    Once Bivol sonned Clenelo I think that the writing was on the wall that Clenelo was on the fast track to being a shot fighter.

    It's not the age, it's the mileage. I think Kobe said that.
     
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