Who is David Benavidez best opponent ?

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If someone were to beat Benavidez, how good would the win actually be ? Benavidez looks top tier on film but who has Benavidez beaten to be a proven Elite ?
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Everyone put in front of him.
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

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    His last 4 wins against Plant, Andrade, Gvodysk, Morrell were all good wins. They were all good fighters, maybe hype jobs to an extent - but they were genuinely decent fighters. Canelo pretty much ducked Benavidez in broad daylight.

    He'd need to beat either Bivol or Beterbiev to be in the top 3 P4P discussion. As of now, Yarde isn't really in the same bracket as those opponents listed above if I'm honest. Yarde is a little bit of big name in the UK at least, but hes only really beaten Lyndon Arthur who was a gatekeeper at best.

    Callum Smith would make that list above easily on the other hand...
     
  4. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    Strange how nobody uses these arguments against other fighters though. Everyone was on beterbiev's nuts for years and until Bivol, his only good win was Gvozdyk. Who did GGG ever beat to prove he was elite? Who did Shakur beat? Valdez?
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gvozdyk was undefeated champion who destroyed Stevenson. Benavidez doesn't have win on that level. GGG was robbed against Canelo, beat Jacobs. Shakur has been beating top contenders for years in 2 weight classes and beat up Herring. Morrell is not a top contender at light heavyweight. Benavidez best win is Plant imo

    This isn’t to say Benavidez isn’t elite. But who do you think his best win is ?
     
  6. HistoryZero26

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    Gvodyk is the best name on his resume Plant was probably the best when they fought. Benavidez has been at 175 2 fights and is an interim champ what do you expect? At 175 theres really no clear hiearchy behind Beterbiev and Bivol. Theres not a 3rd opponent you can clearly put above Morrell or Yarde who hes fighting next. I thought Buatsi was going to be that guy but he got upset.

    Right now at 175 theres three groups Beterbiev and Bivol, Beterbiev and Bivol victims and unproven prospects. 175 has a lot of depth but the division is "back heavy". That depth is all unproven prospects its hard to rank. Its going to take a little bit for the dust to settle there. Its why I really wanted Crawford to go up. The timing was perfect for a quick Andre Ward or Calzaghe cameo.

    The heart of Benavidezs ranking is Canelo ducking him at 168. This still matters at 175 in 2025. Canelo is an ex 175 champ and won the 2nd most rounds against Bivol after Beterbiev. Because Canelo ducked Benavidez so blatantly people have it in their heads that Benavidez>Canelo even if they never fought. And that got Benavidez into the Bivol/Beterbiev group.
     
  7. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    You are asking a flawed question because you want to cherry pick 1 win from an entire resume and ignore the rest. David was FIVE quality wins, which in total are better than Berterbiev beating undefeated Gvozdyk.

    Dirrell - 2x wbc champion
    Plant - former wc
    Andrade - 2 division champion
    Gvozdyk - former champ
    Morrell - 2 divison regular belt champion.

    Total losses between all of those fighters = 3. So when you just say 'his best win is plant' do you see how unfair it is?
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

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    Andrade moved up and his resume is trash. Gvozdyk was shot and coming out of retirement. Morrell was never a legit champion bro. It's certainly possible the Morrell win ages really well if he beats Callum Smith, but it's been aging poorly so far
     
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    Prove Gvozdyk was shot because he looked fine to me. Best shape of his career. So what if Andrade moved up? Since when do wins not count because of that? Marquez moved up 2 divisions for Floyd. Canelo moved up for Bivol yet every raves about his win. Your double standards are lol.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    37 years old. Retired for a few years. Wasn't nearly as active compared to his younger self despite fighting someone who didn't hit as hard Beterbiev. He was shot

    Andrade fought mediocres to win his vacant belts. You probably don't even know who he fought to win those belts. He didn't beat anyone established champions and ducked Charlo and Janibek.

    Nobodies saying Benavidez isn't elite, but his resume isn't very good. Perhaps he'll prove me wrong if he gets an opportunity at Bivol
     
  12. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Gvozdyk, although clearly past his best, he’s still best of the mean streak David has been on imo. I’ve actually always had a very high opinion of the Nail. What really held him back was the mental and physical toll of fighting two monster punchers within a year.
     
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  13. tarrant45

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    The top 2 p4p fighters in the world are 37 years old, so that argument alone is rubbish. He had 4 tune up fights before David so he was active. You don't seem to know what shot means but you don't seem to know much about boxing considering the laughable threads you consistently make. You should argue less and listen more.

    We can play your knit picking game with any fighter and minimise every opponent. Beterbiev had 1 good win, David has had about 5 yet David has the poor resume apparently.

    What was GGG's best again?
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    Gvozdyk retired for 4 years dude and came back looking like crap. You do not retire for 4 years after taking massive punishment and come back in the same condition. Gvozdyk beat no ranked contenders after coming out of retirement and looked lethargic and less active against Benavidez who doesn't hit as hard as Beterbiev.

    Benavidez beat 1 or 2 ranked light heavyweights at best. Beterbiev beat at least 5.

    Beterbiev beat Bivol, Callum Smith, Joe Smith Jr, stopped a prime Gvozdyk and smashed through Tavoris Cloud.
     
  15. tarrant45

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    He did not look like crap when he came back. He stopped his last 2 opponents and had a very low mileage career. You have no argument that he was shot. You said he was shot because he was 37 yet the top 2 fighters in the world are 37.

    Joe smith jr is crap, and so is callum smith, yet you pretend they are quality wins while minimising David's wins.