Usyk gets a time machine, does he clear the top level of every era and go undefeated

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  1. None of them can handle the new age soviet style

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  2. Usyk would be elite in any era but no heavyweight can go undefeated against this list

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's never been anyone like Usyk. We could be witnessing the h2h goat. Usyk is given a time machine to prove to the nostalgists that he's the best heavyweight ever. These are his obstacles

    2000s: Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Chris Byrd

    90s: Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe

    80s: Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Michael Spinks, Tim Witherspoon, Gerry Cooney

    70s: Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton

    60s: Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, Eddie Machen, Cleveland Williams
     
  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    It’s definitely possible that he’s the h2h goat, but are you really asking if he can keep his 0 by fighting that entire list in one career span? That, I do not believe is possible.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets pretend he's in his prime for every bout
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would have great fights against Ali, Frazier, Lewis, Tyson, and Evan Fields (because testing was in its infancy), winning more than losing.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2000s

    Wladimir beats Usyk he excelled vs Southpaws.

    Vitali loses to Usyk based on the struggle he had vs Byrd.

    Usyk beats Povetkin/Byrd on points.

    90s

    Lewis wins his uppercuts would be the key.

    Holyfield and Usyk at their best is 50/50.

    Usyk beats the Tyson who come out of prison.

    Usyk out points Bowe who had issues when boxers fought him at range.

    80s

    A prime Tyson stops Usyk the worst stylistic match up for Usyk.

    Holmes/Usyk is a close call hard to pick.

    Usyk outpoints Spinks, Witherspoon, Cooney.

    70s

    Depends what version of Ali in the 70s I think the Ali who outpointed Norton in their 2nd fight who looked reminiscent of his peak in the 1960s with the constant movement may outpoint Usyk. But it would have to be a very specific version of Ali in the 70s.

    Usyk outpoints Foreman who had issues vs boxers.

    FOTC Frazier outpoints Usyk an ATG swarmer is the worst kind of style for Usyk.

    Norton thrived against boxer types and I think he would run Usyk close although Usyk probably edges it in a hard fought decision.

    60s

    I'm more confident of a peak Ali with his handspeed/movement being able to outpoint Usyk.

    Frazier beats Usyk again as I already said above.

    Usyk beats the rest in the 60s Liston, Williams, Machen.
     
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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Best versions, no injuries, H2H...

    I think he loses to Wlad, Lennox, Ali and Foreman,

    50 / 50 Tyson, Holmes, Frazier, Vitali

    Usyk beats the rest of them
     
  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t care if his name is Muhammad “I’m hard” Bruce Lee. Nobody is beating Usyk.
     
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  8. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    somebody would catch him. too much to ask. just 2 cents.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ok, so let's pretend everyone he faces is in their prime. He doesn't beat all those guys. Nobody beats everyone you mentioned. They are ATG's or at minimum, ruled an era or gave hell to the greats for a reason.
     
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  10. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    As other have said, no beats everyone 100% of the time.
    Never a horse that couldn't be rode, never a cowboy that couldn't be throwed.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I think Usyk has the skills and enough size to beat anybody in boxing history.

    That is not to say that he WOULD.

    I can ALSO envision scenarios and routes to victory against him for most of the heavy ATGs, although some might be more or less likely than others. If I had to bet my life on Usyk sweeping clean or "the list" I'd bet on "the list" because I think most of those dudes have the ability to be the spanner in the gearbox.
     
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  12. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would be a Top 3 guy in every era.
     
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  13. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fighters who lost to non-elite opponents cannot fit in the same sentence with Usyk, Usyk would beat even the best...
     
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  14. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    He's gonna cut the mustard in any era.

    I think a busy swarmer marauder style like Tyson, or fighters that are your non typical Queensbury style of fighter gives him the most problems.
     
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  15. NewChallenger

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    60s:
    He isnt beating Ali, Ali throws too many punches and knows the range too much so he will just make it so Usyk cant hit him. Ali fought the full 15 with a decent to high pace, Usyk fights 12 rounds with a very slow pace. Ali boxes his way to a decision

    Sonny I would like to think beats Usyk, but Usyk at heavyweight hasn't displayed the footwork to fight him. So I will go to Usyk

    Frazier knocks him out.

    70s:

    Ali still beats him on punch output Alone and he still had decent footwork.

    Frazier knocks him out.

    George knocks him out as Usyks options are either stand infront of George which is suicide. Or try to dance away, which George will just cut off the ring and kill him on the ropes. Usyk complains to the referee too much about supposed low blows,but these are in reality because he is weak to the body.

    Norton it could go either way but I think Usyk wins here

    80s:
    He loses to Tim and Gerry, Mike Kills him ,Larry outboxes him ,he might beat spinks.

    90s: He loses to pretty much everyone. He might beat Mike though.

    2000s: I think Usyk beats all of these