Usyk gets a time machine, does he clear the top level of every era and go undefeated

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  1. None of them can handle the new age soviet style

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  2. Usyk would be elite in any era but no heavyweight can go undefeated against this list

    63.6%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's never been anyone like Usyk. We could be witnessing the h2h goat. Usyk is given a time machine to prove to the nostalgists that he's the best heavyweight ever. These are his obstacles

    2000s: Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Chris Byrd

    90s: Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe

    80s: Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Michael Spinks, Tim Witherspoon, Gerry Cooney

    70s: Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton

    60s: Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, Eddie Machen, Cleveland Williams
     
  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    It’s definitely possible that he’s the h2h goat, but are you really asking if he can keep his 0 by fighting that entire list in one career span? That, I do not believe is possible.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets pretend he's in his prime for every bout
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would have great fights against Ali, Frazier, Lewis, Tyson, and Evan Fields (because testing was in its infancy), winning more than losing.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2000s

    Wladimir beats Usyk he excelled vs Southpaws.

    Vitali loses to Usyk based on the struggle he had vs Byrd.

    Usyk beats Povetkin/Byrd on points.

    90s

    Lewis wins his uppercuts would be the key.

    Holyfield and Usyk at their best is 50/50.

    Usyk beats the Tyson who come out of prison.

    Usyk out points Bowe who had issues when boxers fought him at range.

    80s

    A prime Tyson stops Usyk the worst stylistic match up for Usyk.

    Holmes/Usyk is a close call hard to pick.

    Usyk outpoints Spinks, Witherspoon, Cooney.

    70s

    Depends what version of Ali in the 70s I think the Ali who outpointed Norton in their 2nd fight who looked reminiscent of his peak in the 1960s with the constant movement may outpoint Usyk. But it would have to be a very specific version of Ali in the 70s.

    Usyk outpoints Foreman who had issues vs boxers.

    FOTC Frazier outpoints Usyk an ATG swarmer is the worst kind of style for Usyk.

    Norton thrived against boxer types and I think he would run Usyk close although Usyk probably edges it in a hard fought decision.

    60s

    I'm more confident of a peak Ali with his handspeed/movement being able to outpoint Usyk.

    Frazier beats Usyk again as I already said above.

    Usyk beats the rest in the 60s Liston, Williams, Machen.
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Best versions, no injuries, H2H...

    I think he loses to Wlad, Lennox, Ali and Foreman,

    50 / 50 Tyson, Holmes, Frazier, Vitali

    Usyk beats the rest of them
     
  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t care if his name is Muhammad “I’m hard” Bruce Lee. Nobody is beating Usyk.
     
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  8. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    somebody would catch him. too much to ask. just 2 cents.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ok, so let's pretend everyone he faces in their prime. He doesn't bear all those guys. Nobody beats everyone you mentioned. They are ATG's or at minimum, ruled an era or gave hell to the greats for a reason.
     
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  10. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    As other have said, no beats everyone 100% of the time.
    Never a horse that couldn't be rode, never a cowboy that couldn't be throwed.
     
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