Which fight was closer Madrimov vs Bud or Usyk vs Briedis

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  1. lion000000

    lion000000 New Member banned Full Member

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    Everything you just listed is either BS. Or irrelevant narratives with no substance. That's why it a wall of text.

    Speak in facts when you talk to me. That way it'll be short conversati

    Crawford is more accomplished. That's not debatable. The facts are what they are.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No it is not

    I'll tell you what some ''facts'' are

    You tucked tail and ran away when I turned the heat up to #2 the last time I slapped you around

    You ducked answering all my questions

    You're ducking them again

    And are claiming you only speak facts to try and distract away from that because you can't counter my points with anything of substance because you know I'm right

    You're an alt

    And last but not least, it's a fact I'm about to ban your ass, time waster alt

    Those are some actual'' facts'' :lol:
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    If you are saying Crawford is more accomplished because he has unified more divisions then you must think that Crawford is more accomplished than Floyd Mayweather as well?
     
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  4. lion000000

    lion000000 New Member banned Full Member

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    Everything you listed is Bs. Nothing but narratives and irrelevant Bs you throw in just to have something to say. That's why it's a wall of text. You're trying to convince me because you have no facts to support your opinion.

    Unlike you. My opinion is based in the facts.

    I was gonna give you a detailed reply but your first statement was a guy who moved up 6 divisions never fought anyone bigger than him. You're delusional. So why waste my time.
     
  5. lion000000

    lion000000 New Member banned Full Member

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    He's more accomplished than Usyk in everyway there is to be.

    No he's not more accomplished than Floyd, because there are things in which Floyd is more accomplished and vice versa.

    He and Floyd have comparable accomplishments. Crawford and Usyk' accomplishments are not comparable.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course we are, because I've spent time on all of the other sites and they're all quite lackluster. There's a reason why this site is still going fairly strong while the rest of them are slowly crumbling. Because we're levels above the rest, mainly due to the intellects and deep resources of information most of the better posters are carrying around with them. There's a few borderline walking encyclopedias on here, myself included. But of course it can't be proved to a biased jackass with an ax to grind like you.

    Outside of this forum equals, all of the other inferior boxing sites and Twitter. Like I said, If you disagree that vehemently you're more than welcome to leave or head back to them.

    I couldn't care less what most of the press scores are, most of them are knee jerk lemmings, with a pro American bias, who are more than willing to go with the flow. They're certainly not willing to go out on a limb so they can have clowns ridicule them and try to question their credibility. So when the match is really close and hard to score, they play it safe and agree with the herd. The same thing happens all of the time with movie critics. When you have a mainstream reputation on the line, nobody wants to risk their positions. So they get in line and be the good little company men that they are. You speak in bull****, I speak as someone who's probably scored more matches this year than you've seen. I value my judgement, Serge's judgement and IntentionalButt's judgement over some race obsessed dickhead like you.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Once again, I accept your surrender.

    No it isn't it's all 100% relevant and I actually back my arguments up with actual facts and proof, none of which you can counter or can even summon the courage to try to do so

    I said he's never fought anyone ''much'' bigger than him and then I proceeded to ask you a bunch of simple questions which would prove me wrong regarding that if I was wrong and once again you ducked answering them and the ''fact'' he hasn't despite moving up 5 divisions (not 6) completely proves my point, genius

    You can keep repeating you're ''speaking facts'' over and over again but no one is buying it :lol:

    You already wasted your time for the 2nd time on me after I embarrassed you the first time you plucked up the courage to come at me under this alt

    Go find another forum
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Objectively both fights are similar in regards to the average scorecards. The general consensus is that both Crawford & Usyk deserved to win in the region of 115-113 in competitive fights.

    Usyk pulled it out down the stretch vs Briedis with the higher workrate.

    Crawford also pulled it out down the stretch vs Madrimov who for me did too much feinting and not enough punching.

    This is how i scored both fights.

    Oleksandr Usyk vs Mairis Briedis

    1 Briedis
    2 Even
    3 Usyk
    4 Briedis
    5 Usyk
    6 Briedis
    7 Usyk
    8 Usyk
    9 Briedis
    10 Usyk
    11 Usyk
    12 Briedis

    115-114 Usyk

    Terence Crawford vs Israil Madrimov

    1 Even
    2 Crawford
    3 Madrimov
    4 Crawford
    5 Madrimov
    6 Crawford
    7 Crawford
    8 Madrimov
    9 Madrimov
    10 Crawford
    11 Crawford
    12 Crawford

    116-113 Crawford
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree lad and here are some facts to back that up.
    Usyk won a WBSS Crawford did not.
    Usyk is a 2 time undisputed world heavyweight champion Crawford is not.
    Usyk has been Ring Magazine fighter of the year Crawford has not.
    Usyk is an Olympic Gold medalist Crawford is not.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why does this thread reek of you finding a way to discredit Crawford because you have sour grapes about Crawford beating Caneo ?

    Every post I've seen you make since Crawford beat Canelo you're looking for ways to discredit him. And yet you're the one who picked Canelo to beat Crawford now you're back peddling since Crawford beat Canelo.

    This is just an agenda driven thread to make Usyk look better.

    Why do people act like this ? Why can't you just be objective and be happy we have two great fighters who are fighting it out for the P4P number 1 spot ?

    Crawford/Usyk have great respect for eachother and are actually friends. So why do we have to discredit one of the fighters to make the other one look better ? It's quite frankly silly.
     
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Knee jerk lemmings lol I’m dead
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Kind of like how you post your scorecards in a thinly veiled attempt to push your Crawford agenda. Look, I like you, and I know you think highly of your scoring ability. But I think highly of mine as well, as does IB. Both of us had Madrimov winning as did about half the people on that RBR. Whereas 1 person had Briedis winning. So to even things out a bit.....

     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's the same 4 people always trying to discredit Crawford including the OP, nice job reeling the usual suspects
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It's the same gatekeeper usual suspects with Crawford's ballsack lodged in their throats, trying to discredit anyone who speaks truth to groupthink power. But... but... but... Bivol beats Usyk!:risas3: Go let Frank The Cuban Octogenarian give you Dirty Sanchez.:bandit:
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    What takes more skill

    Losing 12 of your 70 amateur fights whilst fighting at a much lower level despite taking up the sport aged 7

    Or losing 15 of 350 whilst fighting at a much higher level for much longer after taking up the sport at 15 y/o and winning Olympic gold, World Amateur gold, European gold?

    Which takes more skill fighting opponents you're much or bigger than or roughly your size, maybe occasionally a little bigger, extremely occasionally with a significant weight advantage (no more than 7-8lbs max)

    Who you have a huge, big or significant reach advantage or a reach advantage over and never being at a reach disadvantage

    Whilst having fought a ton of featherfists and average punchers, and very few KO artists or legit bangers, especially your size


    In your backyard or home country for 41 out of 42 fights on a deck stacked in your favour or very occasionally an even one at worst, only x 1 stacked in your opponent's favour

    Never taking your belts on the road to defend in your opponent's backyard

    Or winning and unifying all your world titles in your opponent's backyards, never having home country advantage in all your world title fights and fights at the world level, vs opponents your size, bigger or often way bigger who hold big or huge physical advantages over you and only a few times being bigger or much bigger than your opponents, whilst said opponents your size, much or way bigger happen to be savage punching KO artists or legit bangers?

    It's not rocket science

    It's much easier to be ''dominant'' when you're doing the former

    And for the umpteenth time, despite all of the aforementioned, I rate Crawford very highly in terms of both skills and accomplishments and have for a long time, I enjoy watching him fight, and I don't dislike him at all. I just simply do not rate him above Usyk which despite the attempts to browbeat those of us who do not into submission is a perfectly valid opinion to hold.
     
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