Lennox Lewis - Riddick Bowe?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Oct 6, 2025.


Overall better fighter?

  1. Bowe

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  2. Lewis

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Bowe would've flattened him had they fought any time up until 1995. Lewis was always target practice vs good jabbers. If Ray Mercer and Frank Bruno could land their jabs at will then Bowe would as well and do a lot of damage while he's at it. Then there's Lewis' poor footwork and balance which would make it easier for Bowe to walk him down and force him into inside exchanges after he gets off the jab. We saw a microcosm of that in their Olympic fight in rnd 1 where Bowe rocked him badly with an uppercut on the inside. The Lewis that was trained by Emannuel Steward for a few years that improved his footwork and balance and learned how to tie up on the inside would have a better chance.
     
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  2. Jakub79

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    So in your opinion, in which fight did Lewis look better than Bowe and Holyfield in 1992, and in which fight did Bowe look worse than Lewis and McCall?
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis looked better than Bowe against Golota and Tua. More measured and surgical boxing punching, which i perfer over brawling in close quarters. Bowe never looked that bad but Lewis didn't have Steward against McCall and Lewis wouldn't look as bad as Bowe did against Tubbs and Hide. Lewis looked better in a common opponent against Biggs. Prime vs prime Lewis beats him just like in the Olympics and he has a superior resume. It isn't close. Bowe is overrated and literally ducked Lewis
     
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  4. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    Lewis had Steward with Rahman.

    You've already admitted that Bowe never looked as bad as Lewis did with McCall. Now I'd like to know in what fight was he as good as Bowe in Holy 1992?
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet he destroyed Rahman in the rematch. It wasn't competitive unlike the first fight. The version of Lewis in the rematch was much better than the lethargic Lewis that showed up before. If the Rahman fight was indicative of Lewis's level then why did he dominate the rematch ?

    He was better than Bowe when he fought Golota. He absolutely destroyed him in 1 round when Golota beat up Bowe twice.

    Michael Moorer also beat a prime Holyfield after Holyfield beat Bowe, yet for some reason you and everyone else rate Bowe dozens of places higher than Michael Moorer. It's because Bowe is overrated. He has a great win against Holyfield, this does not prove he beats Lewis who has a superior resume. The best version of Lewis beats the best version of Bowe. He already did it once.
     
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  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    I've already pointed out that Bowe was to blame for this.
     
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  7. SouthpawsRule

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    Golota out-fought Bowe at all ranges. Out-jabbed him at range, beat him in the exchanges and was out-fighting him in the pocket. Lewis couldn't establish his jab against Mercer but he out-fought him in the pocket and actually won via being a better fighter rather than his opponent being a lunatic. Even the McCall match was more excusable, Lewis never got out-fought in the ring as clearly as Bowe did against Golota.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

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    Can’t understand a vote for Bowe. It has no pillars to stand upon.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
  10. Jakub79

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    A few weeks after the fight with Bowe, Gołota returned to his home country to appear in court for a crime he committed many years ago.
    He was unable to speak; after the fight with Riddick, his jaw was wired in several places, he was deaf in one ear, and he suffered neurological problems that remain with him to this day.

    A laughing McCall, a few hours after the fight with Lewis, joked with reporters at a press conference about the WBC belt he had stripped from Lennox.

    Bowe WON against Gołota after a major fight. Despite being fouled.

    Lewis was KNOCKED OUT by McCall with a clean punch.

    Bowe's victory over Gołota was undisputed, and speculation about the Mercer-Lewis verdict continues to this day. What if Lennox had met an active Ray, even a few years earlier? Bowe's neurological issues before the Gołota fights are important, but they don't fit the narrative, do they?
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Let it all out mate. Bowe won both fights on fouls, he was behind in both of them at the time of the DQ.

    Lewis faced Golota straight after he gave Bowe hell. Golota lasted 1/2 a round vs Lewis. He was KTFO in a big way.

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  12. Jakub79

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    This is even better. After two of the best fights of his career, Andrew goes to Lamon Brewster. But after the fight with Lamon, Golota's doctor refused to compensate Golota for the lidocaine injection. Golota was as hot and cold as Antarctica and Africa, but of course we can consider those fights between Brewster and Lewis to be great; they would probably do the same to Bowe.
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Lamon was 8 years later LOL

    After two of the best fights of his career he went to Lennox Lewis, like, next fight. Lamon was almost a decade later. Golota couldn't take The Lions brutal right hand, and was pole axed not long after Lewis landed the first one. He didn't recover.

    Lewis haters will no doubt claim that suddenly it wasn't the Golota that fought Bowe. Tyson nuthuggers/Lewis haters do the same with Ruddock. Three fights after Ruddock had two terrific battles with Mike Tyson, Lewis absolutely blitzed him. Oh nooooo, noooo that wasn't the same Razor, it simply can't be.

    There's a pattern there. Lewis obliterated some fighters that some of the best of his era had brutal battles with. Some people just can't accept it so out comes the speculations.

    Sometimes it just might be a duck.
     
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  14. Jakub79

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    Yes, Golota was fighting Brewster after two fights with Ruiz and Byrd, which he should have won, not after two wars with Bowe, which he lost, a serious injury, and a lidocaine injection for which he received exactly one million dollars in compensation.

    In summary, Lamon Brewster had a more difficult task. But you can certainly think Golota was great against Lewis. Almost as good as McCall in the mental institution.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    I don't think Golota was great against anyone, ever.

    The two wars with Bowe didn't go the distance, they were called off by DQ with Golota leading both. Lets not make out he was KO'd or anything. The man was winning.

    So McCall boxed in a mental institution?

    Your Lewis emotions are really getting the better of you.