Crawford doesn't think Pacquiao was legit

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is one of the few times he's actually said something which has annoyed me

    The irony of these clowns accusing Manny of being a PED cheat whilst they worship at the altar of many actual proven PED cheats and Floyd who has enough red flags surrounding him regarding PED abuse for every bull on the planet to charge him is only lost on them

    Manny isn't the one who got caught using an illegal IV

    With abnormally low testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratios before 2 fights

    Who has a surrogate ''daddy'' who owns over 20 TRT clinics

    Who had to issue a grovelling apology and retract all his PED cheat accusations and pay him a hefty sum when Floyd's legal team subpoenaed him to produce his medical records

    Manny is as legit as legit gets
     
    Serge, Oct 11, 2025 at 10:09 AM
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  2. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Extremely successful people have a way of bringing out the insecurities of their peers… I think you see this with MANY of Manny’s peers when they’re interviewed.

    I remember seeing Cotto say Floyd is better than Manny…. The beating Manny gave him must have been so bad it erased his memory of it.
     
    MagnificentMatt, Oct 11, 2025 at 12:18 PM
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  3. preciseI247

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    Manny refused the drug test when it was time to fight Floyd because he was juiced up and every OG fan knows it.

    Most of Pac's game relied on being the faster more explosive athlete.
     
    preciseI247, Oct 11, 2025 at 12:23 PM
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    True. I think Crawford actually believes Manny's a PED cheat though
     
    Serge, Oct 11, 2025 at 12:31 PM
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  5. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Sadly, I think they keep picking on Manny for this as he's not "one of them", we remember how Floyd used to talk about and insult Manny in that regard.
     
    MixedMartialLaw, Oct 11, 2025 at 1:53 PM
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  6. Bigplatts

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    The biggest weight bully in boxing implying someone else isn’t legit is mental.
     
    Bigplatts, Oct 11, 2025 at 2:02 PM
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dude went up to 168 and was bigger than the undisputed champ there lmao.
     
    ellerbe, Oct 11, 2025 at 3:13 PM
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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Yes, I wonder why a much smaller fighter going up against weight cutters in higher divisions doesn't quite keep his power. Really a mystery, that.

    Also absolutely hilarious for a Conte affiliated boxer to be talking about blood tests and implying wrong doing lmao.
     
    roughdiamond, Oct 11, 2025 at 3:38 PM
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  9. Serge

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    It sure does seem that way. Inoue been subjected to the same smears in recent years, including by Floyd
     
    Serge, Oct 11, 2025 at 4:17 PM
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  10. Serge

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    Floyd's KO percentage at 147 and above went way down too
     
    Serge, Oct 11, 2025 at 4:18 PM
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Yet that point is used to help commend Money's boxing ability (as it should). Yet it's a detriment for PAC despite the fact he was a high volume punching machine. If anything PAC 'losing power' and still clocking elite wins just showcases how much of an underrated boxer he actually is.
     
    roughdiamond, Oct 11, 2025 at 4:23 PM
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes. I don't understand how anyone could hate on Manny
     
    Serge, Oct 11, 2025 at 4:31 PM
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  13. kirk

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    Disappointing take from my boy Crawford here. I hate that theres not someone to push back on what hes saying.

    The KOs stopped as he got older while simultaneously rising in weight and fighting larger, durable fighters.
     
    kirk, Oct 11, 2025 at 4:40 PM
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  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    At a certain point the frame is just too small to be able transfer power at the higher weight classes regardless of weight gain. Inoue wouldn't be the same monster KO artist if he keeps moving up as Manny did.

    Crawford has a big frame but cut hard to fight at the lower weight classes, the opposite from Manny.
     
    MixedMartialLaw, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:54 PM
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  15. The Cryptkeeper

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    Bud really is a simple foamer. He’s a great fighter but has an almighty chip on his shoulder and very little going on upstairs.
     
    The Cryptkeeper, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:58 PM
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