Jesús Alejandro Ramos, Jr. vs. Shane Donte Mosley, Jr.

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¿"El Mono" (The ******) o "El Dulcero" (The Sweet)?

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  1. Ramos on points

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    66.7%

  2. Ramos by stoppage

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    33.3%

  3. Draw

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    0.0%

  4. Mosley on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Mosley by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    October twenty-fifth at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, on the Fundora vs. Thurman undercard. On the line will be the WBC interim middleweight world championship.

    At present the WBC has Ramos, Jr. ranked # 5 and Mosley, Jr. ranked #6. The victor will leapfrog above Bilel Jkitou (Silver champ), Chris Eubank, Jr., Yoenlis Hernández (FECARBOX champ), and Meiirim Nursultanov to be just below full MW titlist Carlos Adames in the organization.

    Adames has possible unification match-ups ahead with IBF & WBO titlist Janibek Alimkhanuly or WBA belt holder Erislandy Lara. If neither of those materializes the WBC may insist that he defend against mandatory Nursultanov or the Ramos-Mosley winner as interim champ.

    Ramos has fought twice already in 2025, stopping Jeison Rosario and Guido Emmanuel Schramm. Mosley will have last seen action fifteen months earlier, taking a UD over Daniel Jacobs.

    Mosley has a 3" height and 5" reach advantage. Youth favors the Mexican-American southpaw (himself a second generation fighter of sorts, his uncle being welterweight contender Abel Aarón Ramos) by a full decade - Ramos is 24 and Mosley is 34.
     
    IntentionalButt, Sep 25, 2025
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  2. Bigplatts

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    Mosley has dined out more on his family man than any other 'famous boxer's son/grandson/cousin' I can think of. He's lower gatekeeper level but he keeps getting these decent paydays. Ramos is by decision, maybe even late stoppage altho his punching power doesn't seem massive since he stepped up his competition.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Mosley Jr. 13/2
    Ramos Jr. 2/17
    Draw 20/1
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 12, 2025 at 12:58 PM
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What? Dude is 34 and has yet to get a title shot. Are we forgetting guys like Chavez Jr., Tim Tszyu, Eubank Jr, Conor Benn?

    Mosley Jr. in comparison has taken the hard road. I cant recall a single opportunity being awarded to him without him earning it, I dont see the decent paydays you are talking about. Its been a slow grind to title contention.

    ****, I remember when Ronald Hearns got a title shot against Sturm. What a joke that was.
     
    Badbot, Oct 12, 2025 at 1:07 PM
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...yeah, SMJ is IMO as big an example as you'll find recently (aside from Diego De La Hoya) of somebody getting absolutely no nepo baby bones thrown at them in terms of favorable/unearned matchmaking or scoring.
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 12, 2025 at 1:20 PM
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  6. Bigplatts

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    I'd argue that those other guys actually had talent tho. Chavez Jr. became champ and even KO'd Andy Lee in one of his defences. Tim Tszyu beat Mendoza, Harrison and almost beat Fundora the first time despite fighting blind. Eubank Jr. has had occasional flashes of being good (Smith 2, Benn, Williams, Saunders).

    Whereas I've never seen anything from Mosley Jr. that implies he's a good boxer. Seems to have a decent chin but nothing special skill wise. So why was he headlining a show vs Danny Jacobs. Now he's fighting for an interim title vs Ramos. Dude couldn't beat Quigley. He'd be doing small hall shows against journeymen if his name wasn't Mosley.
     
    Bigplatts, Oct 12, 2025 at 1:58 PM
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    OK, but this doesnt mean that they earned those opportunities they got.
    Hes literally worked his way up through the ranks, thats why he is fighting for an interim title. That and the fact that the WBC are what they are.
    He did not headline against Danny Jacobs. Also, this was Jacobs literally at the end of his career. Its not like Mosley got that fight in 2018 when Jacobs was at his peak.
    And he got robbed by Quigley, who then went on to fight for a title.

    Mosley Jr is nothing special, has done nothing special, and has received no preferential treatment of sorts. Hes spent the entirety of his career grinding away on random undercards. This is literally the peak of his career right now.
     
    Badbot, Oct 12, 2025 at 2:15 PM
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