Whats up with people overrating Chris Byrd?

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  1. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over the past 5th of a century there has been a persistant group of people who blame Lennox and/or Vitali for not fighting Chris Byrd and whom act like Chris Byrd was an ATG caliber fighter. I don't get it.

    I can kinda get people wanting Vitali to fight him cause he'd beaten Vitali but the whole "Byrds number 2, Sanders number 3, Vitali fighting Sanders is a scandal I'm going to cry about for 20 years" people confuse me. For me Byrds not the sort of fighter you can blame a Lennox Lewis for "ducking". Riddick Bowe, Michael Moorer, George Foreman and......Chris Byrd. Nope nope nope. Don't get it.

    Its not just that Byrd is overrated I don't understand how that many people can overrate him so much.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    He was a 70s sized HW fighting in the modern era and folks didn’t have an Usyk around back then to champion.
     
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  3. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    It is easier to overrate Chris Byrd than it is to understand how not all that good the rest of those guys were.
     
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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I would like to have seen Toney vs Byrd
     
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  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I was not even aware people were rating him, let alone overrating him.

    Agree that Lewis wasn't scared of Byrd. But it is slightly peculiar how Lewis never fought a world class southpaw.

    Byrd was a good fighter. Very undersized. He was naturally much smaller than Holyfield or Usyk.

    If Byrd had his cousin Lamon Brewsters left hook and build, he could have been great.
     
  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    He was a lot smaller than that.

    The guy was naturally 170-175 ish. Fairly tall but very skinny. He had to delibrately add 30 lbs to his frame.

    He was not naturally as big as Frazier for example. Taller, sure, but not as naturally stocky and heavy.

    He wasn't even close to being as big as natural 200 + guys like Ali, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Bugner etc.

    Byrd should have fought at 175, then moved up to cruiser, then maybe moved up to heavy. He wasn't the same size as the elite 70's guys unless you are referring to Quarry or Patterson.
     
  7. Overhand94

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    Because he was a courageous, quality southpaw who had defeated Vitali, outpointed Tua and beat an old but decent Holyfield.
    He was also on even terms with Ibeabuchi before the stoppage.
    I agree that his reign was not great and was marred with very close calls, but to come from middleweights and battling with giants (he was going toe-to-toe against Golota !) is quite remarkable.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It starts at pretending he was beating Vitali and ends at pretending that he was ducked rather than sheltered on the Don King circuit.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    People were scared of the numbers a Byrd fight would put up. That was the reality of the situation. He couldn't sell snow to an Eskimo.
     
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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  11. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From the amount of support the man is getting 20 years later you'd never know he had a problem moving PPVs.
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In any sane world, he is an ATG. He started as a super middle, jumped almost immediately to heavy, and owns wins over Vitali, Holy and Tua.

    Jones is almost the same size and is canonized for winning multiple divisions, one fight at heavy. Byrd's achievement is easily and obviously better. And with Byrd, there is no evidence of PEDs use.
     
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  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Byrd beat David Tua, who many around these parts reckon to be unbeatable in fantasy matchups against practically any version of any heavyweight all-time.

    In that regard, Byrd is probably underrated here.
     
  14. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tuas also overrated. Every time hes in a matchup I think he loses handidly he wins the vote in a landslide.
     
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  15. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Byrd was a very skilled fighter no doubt. The thing is he was undersized had little punching power and was not a marketable fighter. Basically, he was boring and couldn't put butts in seats.
     
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