Whats up with people overrating Chris Byrd?

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough but what I'm saying is Byrd carried the weight very well at Heavyweight.

    I can't imagine RJJ carrying 210 pounds without looking fleshy and bloated at the weight.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

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    He certainly did...which is why he's great!

    But he attributes some of the health problems that he experienced later to the poor nutrition of those years. So he didn't carry it as well as all that.
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    I never Byrd isnt great. Im probably the biggest Byrd fan on here.

    It seems that your going with a narrative that Byrd is greater than Jones lmao.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

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    Again, lmao doesn't cut it. Let's state the facts, and you explain where I am going wrong.


    Roy Jones won his medal at light middle
    Chris Bryd won his medal at middle

    Jones won titles through the ranks
    Byrd was so good, that he virtually started at heavy and beat men that would literally have killed Jones
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Just so im clear here, are you implying Byrd is greater than Jones? In a p4p sense?
     
  6. catchwtboxing

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    In a pound for pound sense, yes. Instead of climbing through ranks, he went right to the top and made his mark.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Lmao. That is such a wild take.

    Do you think Byrd would ever have beaten Hopkins at MW?

    Do you think Byrd would ever have beaten Toney at SMW?

    Do you think Byrd would ever have beaten Hill at LHW?

    Byrd never even faced Ruiz at HW so we don't even know if he would have beaten him.

    Rating Byrd better p4p than Jones Jr is such a wild take lmao. Im not convinced this isn't just a troll haha.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

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    Again, lmao doesn't cut it. Yes, he obviously would have beaten all them.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Lmao you nearly had me there haha fair play to you.

    Ill continue watching from afar and see if any other schmucks fall for it.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

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    Byrd is 6'2 and looked fit and toned bulking up to 200lb+ he was naturally bigger than Roy Jones at his physical peak. Roy was as low as 154 in the pros. Byrd was already at heavyweight before his 5th fight. Roy was on the juice but based on the available Byrd is probably a suspect
     
  11. catchwtboxing

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    I've gotten a couple of "likes" already, so some people apparently respect the idea.
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

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    Again, they competed in the Olympics one weight class apart, and they both went as high as heavy. There was a great deal of overlap. What is more, Byrd himself said that he was unfit at that weight, citing some of his later health problems to the poor nutrition of that era. He became a vegan to help solve his pain.

    That's the history.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    I don't track likes tbh, i just know I almost fell for it.

    Fool me once, shame on you.

    Fool me twice, shame on me
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    They weren't physically mature in the Olympics. Byrd was 6'2, weighed around 210-215lb while still looking in great shape. He is naturally much bigger than Roy. Is Roy even bigger than Toney ?

    Roy was a natural 168 pounder and mentioned that gaining that weight at heavyweight made it the most difficult title he won.

    Byrd was a natural cruiserweight or bare minimum a natural light heavyweight, that's why he carried the weight so well and didn't look out of shape at 220 pounds. He is naturally bigger than Tarver. Byrd in his late 30s tried a move back to light heavyweight and got destroyed because he was extremely drained. He was past his prime and yet he was fighting much smaller men than Povetkin (who couldn't score a knockdown on Byrd) so Byrd should have been more comfortable but he wasn't
     
  15. HistoryZero26

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    Responding to everyone here because y'all posted a lot of the same things and I don't want to make many posts.


    Byrd fought at 168 at the start of his career but I do not think hes a natural 168er. He was capable of cutting down that low but we don't call other guys his size who never fought at 175 natural 175ers. I think Byrd was a natural CW/small HW who'd have been a big 175er and huge 168er.

    Given the state of boxing at the turn of the century I'm not sure Byrd would have gotten better results being a 175 lifer. Byrd only became a HW champ because Lennox got stripped for no reason and his reign did not give the impression he had a good shot against the other best HWs in the world including Vitali if they were to rematch. 168 is a tweener division and Byrd is huge so he'd have dominated but so?


    Another point I want to bring up is that Byrd was ranked in the top 2 4 years in a row and the top 3 5 years in a row. Think of guys with that comparable rating.

    For the P4P stuff like with Usyk I feel like people are picking and choosing their small HWs to give credit to. I feel other guys with Byrds SOS would get the "who'd they really beat" treatment. I'm not a Vitali, Holyfield or Tua guy really so thats some of the disconnect but not all. Usyk fans excuse his dropped rounds by allegedly claiming Dubois, Fury and Joshua are the three best other HWs. I'm very dubious about that but you can at least understand how one got there. Vitali, McCaline and Holyfield weren't that nor was old Golota.