Who is better P4P? Usyk or Mayweather?

Usyk fought any man, any time, any place

He had no home advantages, mano a mano, a true born and bred fighting man.

Floyd was coddled in comparison who really understood risk minimization in boxing, although he nearly slipped up underestimating Maidana. To me Floyd really doesn't have a stand out impressive single victory, sure he beat some top level guys and made it look easy which is impressive but not a WOW! moment.

Usyk didn't care about risk minimization, he cared about the fight the challenge and never feared the outcome of a loss. The fight is what he lived for and round 7 against Fury was the ode to his mentality, truly a thing of beauty. What does Floyd have? sucker punching Ortiz? Buying off Maidana's gloves?

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Better?

Absolutely Usyk.

 

Mayweather

 

Pbf and it aint close. Usyk is a top 35 or 40 ATG while pbf is a top 15 ATG. Usyk is incredibly popular here while pbf is hated here on this forum but in no reputable boxing publication or lists will usyk ever be seen as better than pbf those are facts.

 

Usyk unified CW and HW while fighting entirely on the road(often in hostile territory) and beat all of the best men in his era without a-side favoritism, dodgy refs aiding him, corrupt judges, aging out, hydration clauses etc. It's not even a contest I agree. Usyk is the much better fighter.

 

Who gives a ****? How many top 10 p4p ranked fighters did he beat? How many hof fighters did he beat? How many atg fighters did he beat. You know goddamn well usyk isn't better than pbf but will go to your grave saying it because you hate pbf so much. If usyk is better than pbf then he's better than pac to but you won't say that now will you?? Lmfao

 

How many of those HOF fighters weren't shot to bits, weight drained or way smaller than your mancrush? Usyk fought in two weight divisions. He's not a manlet so he can't jump through a million different divisions with very little difference between them. Going up from CW to HW and becoming the top dog is more impressive than anything the brittle handed pillow fisted marathon runner could ever dream of.

 

You're the biggest Floyd Mayweather fanboy in the world, so you're bound to be biased.

Mayweather neven won no Gold medals in his damn life, never beat no one in their backyards, never was undisputed in any divisions, and never took risks and never had cojones to be undersized and face prime beasts the way Usyk did. If Usyk was Mayweather you know damn well he would have moved up to Middleweight and fought Golovkin, hell he would have even have gone up and fought Froch in the UK at 168

Usyk over Mayweather. Mayweather didn't take enough risks for greatness. Deal with it.

 

Usyk was a huge CW so let's stop the bull**** quit acting like he was the size of Tyson or Holyfield because he wasn't. With that said usyk never beat anyone as good as cotto Oscar canelo or pac I could list other fighters as well. Usyk's best win is fury who's best win is an old wlad and his second best win is wilder who he fought 3x you remember wilder don't you? The same guy you and others here clowned for being a bum and a hypejob. That resume Usyk has in no way shape or form says you're better than pbf who beat much better fighters. It's why on no atg list usyk will be within light-years of pbf who will always be seen as better why? Because he fought and beat better competition it's that simple argue with your momma.

Lastly like I said earlier if you rate usyk better than pbf than you must rate him better than pac as well but we all know you won't do that because you love pac but hate pbf. You dont have an ounce of credibility this isn't even close if pbf had Usyk's record and resume and usyk had pbfs people would be laughed off the forum for even suggesting pbf was better but since usyk is the darling here you get dumbass posts and poll results like this but outside where people have credibility it won't happen.

 

Usyk would have took them risks because he wasnt the money fight. Floyd Mayweather was boxing. He was the golden goose. You offered any fighter a world title fight or a shot at Floyd, its no hesitation, its that Floyd money. I can tell you now, if Usyk was making that kind of Floyd money at Welterweight, you would not see him fighting GGG at 160 or Froch at 168 not a chance in hell. I love Usyk as much as the next guy, but hes never had star power to the casual audience before dethroning AJ & Fury, thats why you saw him travelling and fighting elsewhere and not at home, not to mention the events in Ukraine that have hindered any homecomings. Usyks took a lot of risks in his career, way more than Floyd ever did, but he didnt have a choice.

 

Im only gonna say this once nobody gives a **** about amateur records when assessing professional boxing greatness. So I don't give a **** about what usyk did in the amateurs because it's irrelevant when discussing pro boxing careers and assessing pro boxing greatness.

What happened in the pros is pbf consistently beat and fought better opponents than usyk did and that cant be refuted. So me liking pbf is irrelevant because who beat better fighters cant be argued. Im dealing in facts while yall in yall feelings dealing on emotions trying your damn hardest to tear down the better fighter by bringing up meaningless amateur success. The only person who will have to deal with it is haters like you who will continuously see pbf rated higher than your god on any and every p4p list released by any reputable boxing publication or boxing panel from now until the end of time. Now you deal with that

 

One fighter never left home to fight,used rehydration clauses,made deals with drug testers,never went Undisputed in any division he fought in and you had to agree to all his terms and conditions to get to fight him,the other fighter fought everybody in there own back yards,went Undisputed in two divisions against far bigger opponents in one of the divisions and also without any of the other BS the other fighter named in this thread needed !

 

Stop!
Far bigger opponents??? usyk is not a small man Tyson and Holyfield fought against much bigger opponents at hw quit making like usyk was 5'10 and 210 pounds.
Usyk has never beat fighters as good as cotto pac canelo or Oscar until he does he can't be better than pbf or pac who are both far more proven against elite comp.

 

And was Mayweather in his prime or at his best weight against those opponents either ?

He fought ODLH, Cotto, Canelo, at Jr Middleweight who are all objectively HOF fighters. And this at Mayweather's heaviest weightclass where he never made the 154 pound limit once in his life so it was not his best weight.

Mayweather was older than Pacquiao when he fought him.

People always like to say Mayweather beat fighters past their prime or etc. But leave out pretty much all of those opponents were coming off big wins and Mayweather wasn't in his prime either in some of those fights.

For example Mosley was older yes but he was P4P top 3 and coming off one of his best performances in years vs Margarito.

Was Fury in his prime vs Usyk ?

Was Bellew in his prime vs Usyk ? He retired after.

Was Chisora in his prime vs Usyk ?

Was Huck in his prime vs Usyk ?

You can discredit anyone's resume with an agenda.

 

Why won't Usyk fight Parker or Kabayel?