Best examples of overcoming a significant size and power disadvantage

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's his fight with Oakland Billy Smith, which was a great win. However, here is another one which really exemplifies the OP

    "Charley Burley spotted Jay Turner of Dallas, 68 1/2 pounds of fighting weight, but pounded the Texan into a helpless hulk in six rounds in a scheduled 10 round bout last night. Burley, formerly of Pittsburgh and now of Minneapolis, entered the ring at 151 pounds, Turner weighing 219 1/2." -Associated Press
     
  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is another along the same lines:

    "Tony Mundine added the Australian heavyweight boxing title to the middleweight title he already held when he stopped defending champion Foster Bibron here tonight. The referee stopped the bout in the 11th round when Mundine, who was conceding over 40 lbs., put Bibron down with a crushing punch. Despite being outweighed, Mundine was a clear pre-fight favorite and was well ahead on points when the bout was stopped. He now hopes to meet Bunny Sterling of Britain for the Commonwealth middleweight title." -Reuters
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Billy Conn came within a whisker of an epic win over Louis.

    Young beating Foreman also comes to mind.
     
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  5. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good man urself. I personally was convinced Canelo would win due to weight.
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think Usyk vs Joshua is a great example

    Usyk and Fury are similar power wise. Not a major difference between the two in terms of power.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Even if we use the biggest 70s Foreman accounting for condition it was only 229lbs… are we for some reason assuming that being a lardo at 257lbs makes one “naturally” bigger then Wlad? Vitali? Lennox? AJ? Bowe? No, those were bigger men, same deal as people saying Andy Ruiz Jnr is a fat cruiser, Foreman was just a fat 70s HW. Holyfield was a much more muscular 215-220lbs visually they looked a species apart (70s GF and Holy) I mean AJ overcame a size advantage vs Ruiz if you just go by weight one of 43lbs which is incredible isn’t it? Far more impressive then Barkley vs Duran, Margirto vs Pac, Walker vs Sharkey etc
     
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  8. Journeyman92

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    Young Dominating Foreman*
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I don’t think it comes to mind for many… Ezzard Charles vs Rex Layne and that’s fair he was spotting Layne a mere 7lbs but credit to Charles he had been a 160-175lber sized guy mostly, a guy who was suffering the effects of his affliction from the earliest days of his HW visit and was old and worn. To me it’s more like 175lbs vs 195lbs + the handicap of Lou Gehrig's disease lol. Nino Valdez vs Archie Moore is another good bout right? - I imagine if Valdez got Moore we’d be talking about Marciano vs Nino Valdez in this thread.
     
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  10. janitor

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    Tommy Loughran beat a lot of quality bigger men, and he wasn't a puncher even for his own size.
     
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  11. HistoryZero26

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    At HW top tier of guys with these sorts of feats are Loughran, John Henry Lewis, Jack Twin Sullivan, Miske, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Mickey Walker, Pastor, Bivins, Al Gainer, Nathan Mann and Weinart.

    Uzcudchin beat Max Baer but hes got one of the best chins ever. Risko might have the most of these sorts of feats but he fought more top opponents then Ali and Louis and took a ton of Ls in the process.

    Moha becoming a 175 champ at 5'5 and Brouillard beating Gainer at under 5'6 with no power are about as extreme as this gets. Thats smaller then Manny with less power then Manny going up an additional 3 weight classes.

    There are superheavys who do worse with small opponents like Godfrey and now that the sport is closed we really have no idea who those guys are.
     
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  12. SouthpawsRule

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    Brother you and NoNeck complain about Foreman fans being everywhere all day long and yet its always you two that ignite the discussions about him?

    OT: AJ vs Usyk is the best example I can think of in boxing. In combat sports in general look no further than Fedor and DC’s entire career. Two fat middleweights beating tf out of everyone.
     
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  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Quarry-Lyle?
    Quarry-Shavers?
    Usyk-Joshua?

    All 4 fights had a significant size and power difference between winner and loser.
     
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yup. Loughran is a great example.
     
  15. Steve Fero

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    Mickey Walker fighting Jack Sharkey to a draw.
     
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