Tyson Fury > Wlad Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Redbeard7, Oct 24, 2025 at 3:47 PM.


  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,418
    2,493
    Oct 9, 2022
    Wlad was "mentally shot" (in so far as he actually was and this isn't a desperate BS excuse) because Fury was psychologically dominant in the build-up. He knew he had Wlad's number and Wlad strongly suspected it too.

    You'd give Fury no credit if he'd schooled Wlad again or stopped him, you're a rat in that regard. Fury had nothing much to gain by beating Wlad again and he was in no condition to fight as he'd lost all motivation after conquering the mountain.

    Wlad was great at beating the Calvin Brock's and Alex Leapai's. Credit to him for that.
     
  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,418
    2,493
    Oct 9, 2022
    "He CHOSE the weaker path"

    Not rematching Sanders, sighted Brewster, Williamson etc. Fighting bums when better and far more lucrative opponents were availible, including rematches. Jumping on the backs of your opponents as a defensive strategy.

    Fury fought Usyk x2, Wlad, Wilder x3. He would have fought Haye but Haye ducked, many fighters no doubt avoided Fury.

    Boxing fans are deranged and inconsistent here. Vitali's best win may be Chisora, Kevin may be in his top 10. But no one bats an eye at Vitali > Wlad. Or Bowe > Wlad.
     
  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,905
    2,165
    Feb 8, 2008
    He refused the rematch because he was not confident he could do it again so he ran and lied like a coward. Just like his sprained ankle he claimed to stall the rematch just to be seen dancing at a club on the said injury.
    He
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2025 at 7:17 PM
    Dynamicpuncher and BCS8 like this.
  4. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,905
    2,165
    Feb 8, 2008
    are you that stupid by your rules Fury not rematching Wladamir must be a huge ding on his resume then? But you already claimed the opposite that rematches dont matter in this same thread. so you are a joke and a clown.
     
  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,905
    2,165
    Feb 8, 2008
    no they weren't he even fought Povetkin in Moscow as well as several title fight in America.
     
    BCS8 likes this.
  6. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    61,117
    81,601
    Aug 21, 2012
    his batshitcrazy wife had just given birth and wanted to off herself?

    "Again" :lol: Love the imaginary myth that Furystans try to push that he boxed some masterclass instead of winning a boring, nothingburger of a fight.

    :lol:
    Fury was amazing at beating Chisora every Tuesday, I am sure it added greatly to his legacy :rolleyes:
     
    kirk, kriszhao and MaccaveliMacc like this.
  7. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,939
    4,295
    Jan 6, 2024
    The Peter fight? He came back from getting knocked down 3 times? Wlad won 19 fights in a row after that and 22 in a row after the Brewster loss. But somehow less forgiveable then the Ngannou fight.

    "But Wlad losing to a green Joshua who hadn't been past 7 rounds or had more than one real fight was pathetic."

    Joshua was an 18-0 alphabet* champ with an 100% KO rate. He was 15 years younger then Wlad. And Wlad got a knockdown and made a spirited comeback. I don't get looking at that fight and thinking AJs got a chance against 35 year old Wlad.
     
    kriszhao likes this.
  8. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

    751
    1,612
    Apr 16, 2023
    The examples you cite of Wlad fights not happening are all rematches. And Fury did his level best NOT to fight Usyk, even though he eventually caved in. Beyond those losses, Wlad, and fighting the same guy three times (in admittedly exciting fights) his resume is pretty bare. The rest of the stuff you bring in are things I never mentioned (eg the greatness of Vitali and Bowe).
    Listen, I said I find your take interesting. It's not without merit, even though I don't completely agree. Wlad fought a lot of poor opposition, and his in-ring tactics were pretty shameful a lot of the time. I genuinely think he is hugely overrated as an ATG. I just think Fury did not do enough in his own career to prove he was better, in a historical sense, even though I think he was capable of it.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2025 at 11:44 PM
    MaccaveliMacc likes this.
  9. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,611
    1,778
    Sep 16, 2017
    Absolutely embarrassing, revoke this mans boxing fan license immediately.
     
    BCS8 and MaccaveliMacc like this.
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,160
    27,999
    Jul 26, 2004
    None of that disputes what I said though.

    Hes not above Wlad because he pointboxed a 39 year old Wlad lol.

    Fury beat 3 fighters that mean anything. One was a practical journeyman, one was 39, and one almost KOd him. He then has struggles against Wallin and a 0-0 mma guy. Thats Furys accomplishments.

    Your awarding him points because he didnt have as many bad losses like Wlad, and the reason for that is clearly because he didnt fight anyone.

    Honestly, this is probably the worst take youve ever had, the entire premise is absurd.
     
    hobby rider, Jackstraw, BCS8 and 3 others like this.
  11. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

    5,620
    4,441
    Feb 18, 2005
    Add to that, Wlad was fighting near prime Joshua at 41 (I think), and was doing pretty well in there.

    If Fury is so great, why isn't he taking on Agit Kabayel, Dubois, even Joshua, at 37, to earn another shot at Usyk?
     
    BCS8, kriszhao and MaccaveliMacc like this.
  12. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,614
    6,959
    Feb 27, 2024
    And yet, Fury still "got depressed" when he needed to rematch a guy who he soundly beaten, lol. Duck, duck, duck. He knew he caught Wlad at the right time, and that really, he couldn't even lace his gloves. He proved it by being shyte of the champion.
     
    hobby rider, kirk, BCS8 and 1 other person like this.
  13. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

    1,468
    3,027
    Jun 19, 2019
    While I think prime for prime Fury always beats him, he's nowhere near Wlad in terms of overall greatness. Way less depth to his resume, nowhere near as long and dominant a reign, missed out on way too many names in his era.
     
    OddR and MaccaveliMacc like this.
  14. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,283
    2,882
    Aug 4, 2020
    Make every excuse for Fury not rematching long reigning champion Wlad but then criticises wlad for not rematching Sanders.

    Standard phallus hopping from Neet
     
    kriszhao likes this.
  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,905
    2,165
    Feb 8, 2008
    The idiot does not even know that Brock was undefeated and ranked in the top ten when Wlad beat him, and had to retire due to an eye injury soon after.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2025 at 1:09 PM
    BCS8 likes this.