Does Fabio Wardley rank above Deontay Wilder all time now?

Wardley not beating Ortiz imo

 

Stiff as a board he would be.

Ortiz, another guy who defeated absolutely nobody other than bum Jennings and somehow got a reputation as a real problem.

Same guy who got dropped twice by Charles Martin & 3 times by Ruiz but Wardley wouldnt bang him out of course not.

 

Prime wilder most likely sends this parker to the shadow realm. never rated wilders skill set but at his peak you really did have to be perfect for 36 mins he had the equalizer of all equlizers, The only person with the ring iq and disapline to do it was fury and he only just about did it in the first fight, you can even argue that he got ko'd. After that wilder was never the same.

 

You're joking, right?

He was a fat slab of lard in the third and looked like he'd barely trained.

If that counts as "obviously very motivated", even by Fury's low standards where motivation is concerned, then I can't imagine what isn't.

 

Ngannou isn't

 

Cut him some slack, bro. The man was 517 years old when those fights happened!

 

He looked similarly ill prepared and in similarly awful shape against Ngannou as he did in the third Wilder bout.

The fact a 0-0 novice gave him as much of a challenge as Wilder did should tell you a whole hell of a lot about just how special Wilder wasn't...

 

Fury had actually had a really poor training camp for that 3rd fight, and was not in great shape, due to many issues including the birth of his premature baby daughter. I remember him saying his only training at times was doing laps around the grounds of the hospital. But he knew he couldn't postpone it again after already postponing it due to getting Covid, and before that, the arbitration that ruled he had to face Wilder in a rematch clause, instead of Joshua.

Edit: I will add though... Wilder had really pissed him off with all the conspiracy theories/excuses about the 2nd fight. I'd never seen Fury with that much genuine hostility towards an opponent before. So Wilder had stupidly given him the fuel he needed to do the job, despite being in poor shape.

 

The fact that Fury was dropped 4 times in 3 fights by Wilder and only 1 time by Usyk shows you... See how ridiculous this sounds

 

Which would make him 512 when the Wilder fights happened.

 

Was Frazier Clarke even better than Dominick Braezele?

 

Those fights were after the Wilder kos and obviously Ortiz was very old

 

Urgh, talk about moving the goalposts... I get you're trying to defend your boy, but this is ridiculous.

Fury was in better shape against Usyk than any of the Wilder bouts, and only in 1/3 against Wilder was he anywhere remotely close - that makes it an unreasonable comparison... Compare Wilder in the second fight against Usyk in either fight and you're closer to a decent comparison - but you didn't, and I can only assume that's because Wilder couldn't lay a ****ing finger on him.

But comparing fat and sloppy unprepared Fury in Wilder 3 with fat and sloppy Fury against Ngannou? That's actually a relatively close apples-apples comparison.

 

It's funny how every jab against Wilder's career is an equal one towards Fury's legacy. As his Wilder trilogy is really what defined Fury's legacy.

 

Plenty of other people would have the ring iq and discipline to do it. Problem is Wilder was facing the likes of Szpillka and Gerald Washington instead.