Sonny Liston.. How much of a threat would Lyle be?

Liston in like 2 rounds, with all due respect to Lyle I think he was fortunate to be fighting the mentally shot version of Foreman he faced and even then Liston is much sharper technically than even the best version of Foreman.

 

Except for 1995 Mike Tyson

 

The voice of reason. I was a boxing fan in the 70s and I just can't seem to recall the nigh unto invincible version of Ron Lyle.
Lyle stopped Shavers but Shavers was far from unstoppable, his career shows that. He caught Foreman and hurt him but lost. He could also catch Liston and hurt him, I guess, but it isn't likely that he would be the one left standing.

 

Are you in your prime right now?

 

Lyle would be more formidable than Williams imo. But he gets stopped by Liston.

 

How exactly was Lyle any better than Williams? Williams was every bit as big and fearless and a more concussive puncher.

For all his supposed chinnyness, Williams at 51 fights, the length of Lyle's entire career, had only been stopped once and that as a late substitute against Bob Satterfield.

Liston was an excellent, very responsible boxer with great strength and length, and the soundest of fundamentals. He would carve up Lyle, bewilder him and stop him.

 

Lyle would be tough, but he simply gets hit too much.

 

I was wondering whether this guy has actually seen Lyle fight.

 

Yup. Williams was also the much better skilled boxer. He fought his slickster Eddie Machen, to a majority draw, with one judge giving him the edge — while Lyle was downright helpless against his, Jimmy Young.

More pertinent to this matchup, Williams was the more powerful puncher than Lyle and most importantly enjoyed a significant hand speed advantage over Liston that frequently allowed him to get there first. This wouldn't apply to Lyle who was not only slower to Liston but inferior in literally every other facet as well.

 

Sonny Liston would leave Lyle convulsing on the canvas, very quickly.

 

Stand up to Liston...you've got him beat! He wasn't tough "mentally"...He QUIT against Clay/Ali in 1964 and 1965...and he was beating Leotis Martin in Las Vegas...even knocked Martin down with a left hook. Martin stood his ground...backed Liston up...Sonny's nose started bleeding...Howard Cosell said that the blood was going into Liston's mouth. Sonny became a different fighter after this...Martin KO's Liston in the 9th round. I'll take Ron Lyle...

 

You should've replaced D'amato.

 

It's true, anyone who isn't scared of Sonny automatically beats him. Liston found this out the hard way when he tried pushing his weight around a 70 year old Jimmy Wilde before suffering the consequences.

Also, Galento wouldn't be scared of Liston. Just sayin'.

 

Physically, probably not, though I try real hard. Mentally...well, I'm not nearly as stupid as I used to be.

 

Shavers was 54 fights deep, Lyle a lot less. He'd not long prior KO'd Jimmy Ellis (ranked about #4) in 1 then lost to Quarry in 1 next fight. I think Earnie was about as good as he ever got. He was never very reliable. He was about 10 seconds away from ko'ing Lyle who was asleep on his feet after rising at the bell.

Totally agree Liston would make minced meat of Lyle.