Phony/Falsified records in BoxRec

charlie Zellenoff ...0-1 , everyone knows he fought at least 300 times

 

Yup, I remember the news. There were a few guys here keeping tabs on him shortly before he died. I think at first his eye catching KO streak got him the attention, but then his bizzare career made a lot of people more curious as to what was really going on. The WBA ranking him made it all rather hilarious.

Clearly it was a fraudulent career, but we have no answers as to who he was, or why did they go down on this path. Just look at the ring walk here

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Of all of the fighters whose records you could bash...you wanna Bash Ali's?

 

Does Junlong Zhang count? When I first got into boxing I remember reading he and his team had been accused of match fixing, but I think there were also some that were outright falsified. I remember there was one fight on his record that's since been expunged, think it was against Victor Emilio Ramirez.

 

Bash Ali's record seems more of a result of poor record keeping in the old days, instead of actual phony fights. Decent chance that his opponents have had lots more fights that weren't recorded on Boxrec. But Bash Ali being a notable boxer is more likely to have his fights recorded, even though it's probably just the usual journeyman padding fights.

Not uncommon to see very incomplete records on some countries.

 

Taishan Dong 6-0-0 (3KOs) I almost think about this Chinese boxer. His fights were always held behind closed doors, without an audience. It's said that two of his fights never actually took place; they were canceled, yet they were still recorded as victories. This effectively ended his career. I don't know if the Americans at the time embellished the record because the geopolitical situation with China was deteriorating and he was intimidating at 2.13 meters (7 feet). Something I appreciate about France is that no record is a source of debate, unlike in Australia. I just saw here that some people are questioning Mark De Mori's record (even though I believe all his fights were legitimate). In France, there's photographic evidence of the judges' scorecards and the fight itself for absolutely every event. And at least about thirty witnesses even during Covid.

 

The official version of Taishan Dong ended his career was that he can't not find a promoter in China and wanted to be a actor and TV animator.

 

Well if you fought the same guy 4 times in a row but he knocked out you 4 times... it's not because you're a stupid it's because you want died I guess... I wonder what happen to that guy after.