Did Crawford Really Move Up “Clean”? Something Doesn’t Add Up.

You called me a liar in your first response to me so why would I bother reading your crap. Just because someone has a different opinion it does not make them a liar.

 

See if you read more, you'd comprehend that I didn't call ANYONE a liar, I said that "y'all be lying y'all tales off for the sake of discussion"..... Which is why happens A LOT in these forums.. And what you said was, in fact a lie.

He has ALWAYS been known as a WEIGHT BULLY and he walks around at 180lbs.....lol.... Show me in a discussion/article/video/etc...where Crawford was referred to as a WEIGHT BULLY before the Canelo match up......

It's called accountability. Don't get emotional because I pointed out. If I'm wrong about something show me where. Because I'll gladly show you on a timeline of the things I pointed out in that response that you claim not to have read......

But you don't like to read too many words that point you back to reality so go ahead and post another acronym to showcase you don't really have any facts to stand on in this discussion.

 

Hardcore fans on here have been calling Crawford a weight bully for the last decade noob.

 

Where clown? (Now I actually called you something).... For an individual who turned into puss meat because he claimed I called him a name (a liar), you are freely running with the name calling.

Hardcore fans.....lol. So, do you and you band of misfits have a click name.....lol.

How about respectable pundits. The actual commentators.....beat writers.........What about Crawford's peers....you know the dudes he actual compete against or along side....... Where is one of them referring to Crawford as a weight bully. We actually have read and heard the opposite. Quotes like "light in the a$$", "not a real welterweight", "not strong enough to deal with....", "there's weight classes for a reason", "power doesn't carry up...", even a commentator made a reference to his legs being too small to deal with the pressure that MADRIMOV is going to give him...... All of that is documented.....

Since you think so highly of you and your buddies' opinions on this board over individuals who actually are APART OF THE SPORT, give me a link to the discussions y'all had prior to the Canelo match up referencing Crawford as a weight bully.

 

I respect the opinion of a lot of members on here more than I do media pundits. Pretty easy for you to do a search on the forum lad. A "Noob" just means somebody new. I don't think it is wise to come on here and insult longtime members of this great forum calling us misfits, liars and puss meat. This is the number one place for boxing discussion in the world.

 

Yeah, there has been several topics we're folks called Crawford a weight bully. After Carwford beat, Porter, Spence and when Inoue moved to 122 and a thread was made about who's P4P number 1. Anytime, Inoue, Usyke or Crawford have a good win, this question is asked, and Crawford is labeled a weight bully.

 

All the top guys are on it, Crawford included. I’m more impressed by whatever crawford was doing to be able to continue fighting in the lower classes for so long, more than I am with his ability to look more than comfortable at super middleweight.

 

You can respect anyone's opinion over another's....I have yet to tell you that is an issue. What I pointed out was documented facts....things that actually occurred on a timeline, history, etc..... You say it's easy to do a search on the forum, I counter with it's easy to do a search everywhere else that reports on boxing as well.

You don't think it's wise to come on here and insult long time members?.....lol. Is that suppose to be some threat....lol. The most you can do is report me and get me banned from posting on this site.... Umm ok.

I've follow the forums here for quite some time.. Eventually decided to join the conversations about 3 or 4 years ago. Just because you have dedicated more time to this site does not place your opinions higher in value than someone who may join this week, and definitely not more valuable than those who have actually been involved with the sport via competing, officiating, commentating, etc...... So miss me with your "bow down to the veteran members of the board" persona.....lol.

Again, comprehension is everything. I didn't CALL YOU ANYTHING other than a "clown" because you were performing and making me chuckle with this conversation. I said "y'all be lying for the sake of disscussion"....that's different from calling you a liar. I said you "turned puss meat" meaning you got emotional....again, that is not calling you a name, I'm discribing an action that your portrayed in this conversation. I know what a "Noob" is. I've been involved in this sport as competitor, trainer, or even simply as a fan for DECADES. Probably longer than the entire lifespan of some of you members who are labeling other members "Noobs" because they only recently decided to join this site.... Get off your high horse, kid.

My comment was based on the discussion and YOU made it personal. If I'm wrong in some portion of my response, give me the link, video, etc... to enlighten/educate me rather than playing victim like I personally attacked you

Oh, I'm sorry, is this response too many words..... I forgot how you are about that.......lol.

 

Thank you for the response within the actual subject. I don't remember those threads, but I'll see if I can find either of them.

Either way.....it's silly to suggest Crawford or any of those fighters are weight bullies because they dared to be great and prepared accordingly. When people give guys like Manny, Hearns, Floyd, RJJ, etc....ultimate praise for their career accomplishments through the weight classes and not one mention of being a weight bully is attached to their legacy. Crawford did nothing different from previous greats.

Crawford NEVER fought above 135 until moving up to 140.... Never fought about 140 until moving up to 147.....154....then 168......

Totally different from guys like Thurman & Spence who had fights at 154 before settling at 147 to make an imprint. Porter competed a time or 2 at 160 before competing at 147.......

As a fighter gets older their body matures. Sometimes that doesn't allow them to drop weight as easy as they were able to do it in their younger years. How does that make them a weight bully. You fight where you are comfortable. Crawford's entire career, people claimed he was too small until now.... All of a sudden he was a weight bully this whole time. Did Porter/Spence/Thurman/Brook/Kavaliauskas/Madrimov/Canelo/Horn all miss the memo, because EACH OF THEM pointed out that Crawford would be too small in some fashion and stated they would have an advantage because of it. All we have to do is look up the build ups to each of those fights.

 

I've always held the opinion, if a fighter makes weight within the rules, then there isn't an issue.

 

I’d say ped is more of a use for cutting weight. It is damn hard to cut weight than adding weight. Crawford just didn’t cut weight. There wasn’t any extra power or speed.

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Other hardcore fans "on here" have not because you either make the weight or you don't. You sign the contract or you don't. If your guy loses, all of a sudden he's small and the other guy is massive so surely he's a cheat? Remember when Oscar fought Pac? When Duran fought Barkley? Remember when Usyk fought Fury? When Floyd fought Canelo? When Loma fought Rigo? When Teo fought Loma? Everybody is different. Their bodies are different. Mix in ages and habits and genetics?

You are all talking a bunch of **** that seems to forgive your guy when he wins and shits on his opponent when he loses.

Other hardcore fans "on here" have been calling for a return to same day weigh-ins and fewer divisions. That's what some fans have been calling...

 

And go back to the days of more brain injury due to dehydration?