Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs Julian ‘The Hawk’ Jackson 154lbs bests

I accept your apology. Ask yourself these questions: What stage of his career did he lose? Against whom did he lose to? And do these losses to these particular men warrant the title 'glass chin'?

Then rewatch all his losses. Then apologize to me again.

 

I'm scared that glass chins are contagious via electronic transmission.

Here's 25 minutes of Julian Jackson getting beaten up.

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Anybody that thinks this guy's big whooshing hooks are going to worry Canelo needs to get their head read. He's tailor made for ginger. Even Golovkin found it harder than usual to land clean hooks and overhands on Canelo; luckily he had an ATG jab to fall back on. JJ does not.

 

It was well known by around 1990 that Jackson was having serious problems with his eyes.
He got stopped latter on in his career where he was well past it but up until then had been stopped ONCE by an all time great.
That hardly reeks of having a bad chin.
Sure I would agree Canelo has the better chin but what puncher at jr.middleweight did he ever face that hit as hard as a Jackson? Nobody.
And Canelo isn't a power puncher that he's made out to be.
Jackson put fighters on ice with ONE punch on a routine basis at 154lb Canelo never did that.

 

I fancy Canelo mainly on styles. The fact that ginger has an iron chin and Jackson an average one at best reinforces my choice.

 

Canelo stops him. Too slippery, too savvy, too durable. Just a bad style for Jackson, since he's far too defensively sound and cognisant to get hit with stupid shots and even if he did, he has the chin to tank a shot from Jackson. Conversely, Jackson does not have the chin to take big shots from Canelo, nor does he have the skills or physicality to outbox him over 12.

 

You should be scared that your arguments are contagious to this forum.

Again, who were the guys stopping Jackson and at what stage of his career? Yeah some nobody named Mike McCallum stopped a pre prime Jackson while still on his feet. And then years later light hitter Gerald McClellan got to Jackson, first in a back and forth brawl and then the rematch. And then a couple years later Quincy Taylor got him on the backside of his career.

I'll be waiting for your second apology...

 

Canelo has taken flush shots right on his chin by guys like GGG and Bivol and not hone down or even seriously hurt. I honestly don't see Canelo ever getting ko'd except maybe in his last fight if he goes one bridge too far.

 

The Hawk was fast and powerful and, in his prime, he lost at super welterweight to McCallum, a very solid fighter, like Canelo, who would constantly pressure Jackson, would be able to take some hard shots (he went 24 rounds of war with GGG) and would also land some hard shots, and Jackson's weak point was precisely his jaw. I say Canelo by stoppage.

 

Canelo does have a top chin, no doubt. I'm not saying that I'd necessarily pick Jackson with confidence to blat him, but it's Jackson we're talking about, so neither would I put money on anyone being able to take many flush shots from him. Even his stuff landing at half-mast was enough to flatten or at least seriously hurt reasonably durable fighters. I wouldn't be shocked at either scenario tbh.

Different to Golovkin imo, who was more of a heavy handed clubber than the circuit cutting, lightning rod, freakish one punch hitter that the Hawk was. Not on the same level of one shot power for me even though he was a bit bigger, not helped by his power looking less formidable as his competition started to have more of a pulse. And not the relatively solid trapsetter, springer that Jackson could be. One of the dangerous things about him was that he could go from looking ponderous and wideish hitting to very sneaky and precise if you let your guard down.

I also that think Canelo had improved the defensive positioning/slipping side of his game at 160 post-Mayweather and was stronger from not having to kill himself making 154.

Bivol I don't really consider that big of a puncher (though granted he's obviously bigger in size than Jackson), and he was generally very disciplined and restrained in that fight.

 

Concerning Canelo hurting or stopping Jackson, he probably hit hard enough to potentially do the job, but at the same time, not being able to put away a hittable, relatively mediocre chinned, naturally smaller fighter like Cotto who had been caved in by Pac and Margarito (I know) needs to be acknowledged.

 

Hard to see past Canelo.
He's been in with some great punchers, Kovalev, GGG,
Some good punchers, Smith , Kirkland, Mossley etc

and no had made a dent. Not many out box him and he carries his own threat. As great a puncher as a Jackson was he's going to struggle to Alvarez away so Canelo probably stops Jackson mid to late.

 

All Jackson's losses are by knockout and going against one of the best chins in boxing history, it's very hard to pick against Canelo in this hypothetical matchup, even if The Hawk punches like a mule.

 

Big win for Canelo imo.