AJ under Igor

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BudC, Nov 21, 2025 at 12:07 PM.


  1. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's a bit funny reading some of the comments in this thread; AJ could beat Paul with no trainer. For AJ to be working with team Usyk is a positive sign IMO; it shows he is not just in it for the money, he has the intent to improve, and he still has aspirations for the rest of his career (minus the upcoming circus fight with Paul of course, but I can't blame him for taking a small fortune to fight a semi-pro).
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    There is nothing to suggest that Lennox would be a good trainer. There are maybe a handful of world champions who turned into accomplished trainers.
     
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  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this would have been a unique one off because they are the same size and have the same physical gifts. Lewis would just be training a younger version of himself, essentially. In that scenario, I could see it working.

    like if Floyd wanted to train Shakur. I could also see that working.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And again, this doesn't mean that Lewis would actually be a good trainer. I have learned that many boxers are very poor at articulating their own tactics and general ring IQ.
    I understand basic math but I cant explain exactly why it works the way it does.

    George Foreman was a very crafty boxer, but if you listen to him talk about boxing he sounds as smart as a brick. Teaching is actually a skill, and Lewis would not be teaching himself but another person who might not have his boxing IQ.
     
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  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok. This is a valid point. But I don’t see how we have proof one way or the other. It would be interesting to see how it would work.

    what do you think about my hypo of Floyd working with Shakur? Floyd is still young enough and fit enough to get in there with him and spar, show him what he’s meaning.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I think both Floyd´s and Lewis´ expertise would be a welcome in any camp, but I dont think they would make for good trainers. Of course I have no way of knowing for sure, but thats my gut feeling when looking at the history of the sport.
    I dont doubt however that Lewis could teach Joshua a few tricks or give some insights.
     
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  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    #1 You can’t train a Glass Jaw

    #2 AJ should be able to train on beer and cigarettes and beat Jake Paul
     
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  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua admires his work too much

    He learnt that during his early formative years (KOing journeymen) and has tried to replicate that ever since
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I dont think its admiration per-say. I would say he more so overthinks in the ring, which is likely a by-product of his stamina issues. He never learned how to fill empty space in the ring when he is trying to conserve energy. He simply lacks the knowledge and skill to control the pace effectively.
     
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  10. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Potential fight with Fury coming up next year, goes to the camp that beat Fury twice.
     
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  11. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    It was after the Olympics/back when AJ turned pro, Lewis wanted to work with/mentor him, brought it up again after the Ruiz Jr loss
     
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  12. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Games going on Full Member

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    Team Usyk is getting used lol and should the Fury vs AJ fight happen and Fury wins he benefits in many different ways. Could we see another epic meltdown by Joshua again this time swinging at people outside the ring going crazy lol?
     
  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ under Emmanuel Steward himself would still be a low IQ fighter who is afraid of getting into a war.

    Joshua doesn't have the talent to fight like Vladimir. Once he got hit hard against a power puncher and had to keep going, his heart was gone. Just wasn't cut out to be that guy.
     
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  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shame on Team Usyk.
    Somebody disrespects your man like that and you welcome them.
    Of course money corrupts.
    But you're not going to heaven for helping to correct the drug-dealing thug, boys. I know you think you are. But you're not.

    Team Big Joshie probably thinking of the Fury fight, yeah.
    Problem is that Joshie thinks he's a great boxer and he isn't, he's just decent for a SHW. He thought he'd outbox Usyk (AJ's ego and IQ issue surfacing) and now keeps wanting to go down that path, probably because he's scared of brawling despite being a 6'5 power puncher with the size advantage over nearly everyone.

    Before that he went to Davison who was very defensive. Ridiculous.
    He keeps trying to be this pure boxer and picking the trainers that are best suited to Fury ironically enough.
    But let him believe he's going to be a Fury/Usyk hybrid with power, just makes it funnier when it fails.

    The way I think he beats Fury is by taunting Fury about his pillow power and fake 'Kronk transformation' then turning it into an aggressive exchange. He will have 3-4 rounds to land his stuff in that dogfight and finish Fury. If he fails, he's going to gas and be stopped. But he will have his chance to land the bombs. If he tries to box Fury, it seems highly unlikely to work even though he always has the puncher's chance.
     
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  15. Rico Spadafora

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    Lennox advice to David Price was awful. His advice to every Vitali Klitschko opponent was awful as well.
     
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