If Joe Louis Fought In The Modern Era..?

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Here is the thing: talent wise they dont have a case against Louis. But their raw power and size combined with Louis' suspect chin gives them an edge.

    If they land a hay maker, all bets are off.
     
  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've always been of the mindset that, when there is a big weight difference in a heavyweight match, that the smaller man come in as small as possible instead of bigger. I believe the speed difference gained is a bigger Advantage than strength gained. Wearing the smaller man down in the clinches is probably the most effective advantage that the larger man has.

    Joe Louis, as a 195 lb fighter, was a more dangerous puncher than probably anyone in history. Not the shot for shot heaviest puncher, but the power, speed, timing, accuracy and Killer Instinct make it so in my mind.

    I'd like to see Tyson Fury stand in front of him with his arms behind his back.
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If? ,,,,,if my aunt had a set she'd be my uncle,,
     
  4. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    But she did not.

    The guys I mentioned did have wolrd class power.
     
  5. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    That would not work lol
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Too static. Undersized. Would be a footnote, even at cruiser, unless he changed his lateral speed and angles. At heavy, no chance.
     
  8. SarahWilson15

    SarahWilson15 New Member Full Member

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    I think with modern training and conditioning, Joe Louis would absolutely hold his own. His fundamentals, timing, and accuracy were elite even by today’s standards. Tyson’s speed and explosiveness or Lewis’s size might pose problems, but Louis’s composure and precision would make him dangerous against anyone.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    I'd like to hear your case for Louis having a suspect chin. We all know he got knocked down a bit, but I've shown ages back a great many of these KD's were balance as he invested heavily in attack. He got stopped twice in 69 fights, over 20 of them title defenses. Once when he had one or two lessons still to learn and got hit with dozens of right hands, and another against the heir apparent (when over the hill) who became as ATG.

    Have a look at how dangerous Joe was when he came off the floor. Attackers often paid the price. Much of the time he was barely hurt if it all, and when he was he recovered in as jiffy. No-one ever one punched him.

    I've just never understood the stance that he has a weak or suspect chin when properly scrutinized.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with most of this but Louis wasn't that adaptable,imo.Godoy gave him a very difficult nights work first time around,simply by crouching low and staying in close,turning the fight into a maul.
    Schmeling beat him by being prepared to take the jab and countering over it when Louis failed to return his left to the guard position.Louis shipped loads of right hands without it occurring to him to hold his left higher to block them.
    Second time around it was a different proposition,with extensive coaching from Blackburn,Louis had the key to opening up Godoy's defence,uppercuts,and he ripped the Chilean to bits with them.
    Against Schmeling , Blackburn drilled Louis to bring his left glove back to protect his chin and just peck away with the jab until the German was softened up. Louis thirsting for revenge was in no mood for a measured tactical fight in the rematch,he went straight out for blood,giving Max no chance of countering him with anything big,he went straight for the jugular.
    Walcott nonplussed Louis and made him tentative with his ,"cake walk footwork ," and shoulder feints,forcing Louis to continually reset . However when Jersey Joe got a little cocky in the second fight,Louis threaded a devastating shot through the guard ,and followed it with a combination that had ko written all over it
    So no, I don't think Louis was very adaptable during a fight,but look out second time around!
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis was also always coming forward making the running,[apart from the Marciano fight,]so naturally he was putting himself into "harms way."
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And still end up skint.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Bingo. He was always backing his own immense arsenal to prevail.
     
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  14. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    he'd be a L-HW first of all...
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd pick the best versions of both to beat him, but I wouldn't bet a lot on either fight.
    Technically better than any HW boxing today, except MAYBE Usyk.