Contemporary reports on the poor punching technique of Jim Corbett

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Corbett is a lot of things… A pretty extreme racist even for the late 1800s early 1900s… short tempered… prone to fits of violence… a bit of a ego maniac at times? something of a con man at times? even a bit of a street thug in his youth… once he told Fitz they’d meet every day in the street till they had a rematch, Fitz told Jim if he hit him he’d shoot him…. Is reading his book a bit of a PG American Psycho (American Dandy?) unreliable narrator and all? Yes… but a weirdo… sort of, not really, he was a social wonder people loved him.
     
  2. Melankomas

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    'I rarely tried to put full force into a blow until I had my man where I wanted him and was ready to put over the finishing touch. I contented myself with jabbing and good hard jolts that would gradually weaken my opponent and maneuvre him into position..'

    - James J. Corbett
     
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  3. Anomalocaris

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    No matter how **** he looks on film there is no absolutely doubt that he had the finest arse-cheeks in all of Christendom.
     
  4. Sailor Joe

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    Fantastic.

    Also, this made me think of Oscar Dela Hoya... Oh, how things never change...
     
  5. Melankomas

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  6. Glass City Cobra

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    Both of these reports reminds me of guys like William Scull, who recently stunk out the joint against Canelo. A highly negative, spoiling style retreating constantly and throwing pitter patter blows with little weight on them with the intent to score and get away rather than actually do damage.
     
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  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I think Corbett would be as hated as Haney, Scull, Shakur, and other defense-first boxers are today if he fought now. Just an annoying style, if you read the descriptions of some of his fights you read about him doing literally nothing but running and clinching for entire rounds. In the Jackson fight he apparently almost always clinched immediately after throwing. Just a nuisance of a fighter to watch or fight altogether.
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

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    A fictional example popped in my head: a boxer from the anime Hajime No Ippo: Kobashi Kenta.

    He fights exactly the way you're describing: circling, only throwing light punches, safety first, and spamming clinches multiple times per round. He nearly beat the main character of the show with his annoying style. Prime Erislandy Lara fought similarly leaving many people confused who won between Lara and Canelo.

    Nobody would ever agree to fight someone like Corbett if he fought today, it's a lose/lose situation. He is either going to embarrass you with his spoiling tactics, or you're going to go through hell attempting to impose your will on him feeling like you lost even if you win. Either way, the audience will be booing and the promoter is going to be pulling his hair out. If he didn't have the belt, people would do everything in their power to freeze him out, and if he became champion no one would unify.
     
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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight exists on film for Joyce in a way. Check out his WSB fight with Usyk (side note, I've almost forgot that Usyk used to be a legit speedster). Joyce looks like he's in slow motion trying to catch Usyk and land anything, while Usyk bounces around and uses his face as a human speed bag. The fight is a video answer to the question of "how can a fast smaller man beat a slower bigger man?"
     
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  10. IM JUST SAYING!

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    Is any of this surprising?
     
  11. Melankomas

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  12. Melankomas

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    “How would Corbett
    and Tunney, each at his best, compare
    in the ring? According to a leading
    American critic, Corbett undoubtedly
    was the better boxer in his prime. He
    had greater natural speed of hand and
    loot, quicker reflexes, a more baffling
    way of stepping in and out. Tunney
    is the slightly better puncher, because
    he hits from a batter balance
    , and
    Tunney is the harder to hurt, more
    rugged, more durable, and somewhat
    more grimly determined to stick and
    win. Tunney
    is not a smashing slugger, but there is
    much more behind those short jolts of
    his, backed up by a heavy shoulder,
    than the onlooker would imagine.”
     
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  13. he grant

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    Look, he was a transitionary figure ... he had natural good size, conditioning and excellent speed but his punching was stiff armed from what I've seen of him .. like he was fencing ..
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He was the Billy Banks of his era. What would you expect?
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yeah, Adam reckoned he wasn't his generation's technician and that's a misbelief which does undermine that "grandfather of boxing stuff" (which is BS anyway the way i feel about it) and that it might be Peter Jackson. Maybe Melankamos will have a snoop about Peter.
     
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