Erislandy Lara vs Felix Trinidad 154lbs primes

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Who wins?

  1. Lara KO/TKO

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  2. Lara PTS

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  3. Trinidad KO/TKO

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  4. Trinidad PTS

    21.4%
  1. PthePuncher

    PthePuncher New Member Full Member

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    Lmao @ Paul Williams…
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Doesn’t work that way or else we’d have reach classes.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those fights were at Super Middleweight/Light Heavyweight which is irrelevant to this discussion and Canelo was juiced to the gills when he moved up in weight.

    Quartey is a big puncher he had a 86 percent stoppage ratio. so you're saying Vargas took big punches off a known hitter and he didn't go down ?

    Tito did have known power above 147 ? I've already gave the examples.

    Would Tito stop all of the opponents Canelo stopped at 154/160 ? Yes or no ?

    Barring in mind we're talking about the likes of...

    Kermit Cintron
    Ryan Rhodes
    Alfonso Gomez
    James Kirkland
    Alfredo Angulo
    39 year old Carlos Baldomir
    Amir Khan
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Knocking out guys at higher weight classes is obviously relevant.

    Quartey stopped nobody above 147.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No it isn't relevant because a juiced to the gills Canelo is different to the Canelo at 154.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    Has a fighter ever beat Tito by dancing away from him trying to pitter patter their way to victory ?

    ODLH tried that and he was a considerably bigger puncher than Lara and faded down the stretch.

    Hopkins was bigger than Tito and beat him up on the inside he also had an ATG chin and very good crafty inside fighting.

    Wright had a stonewall high guard defence and stood right infront of Tito.

    Lara would be running away from Tito like he did to Canelo except Tito is more imposing with his height/reach. Tito also has game changing 1 punch power to turn a fight on its head as he did many times in the 2nd half of a fight.
     
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  7. PthePuncher

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    Canelo was a young dude still growing into his body at 154. Trinidad was a prime natural 154 and he was a consistent banger. Trinidad created offense much better than any version of Canelo.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’re unfamiliar with Lara’s game if you think he just runs around.
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

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    I'm familiar with the fact Lara has been fighting modest opposition for the past 6 years and looked pretty ordinary vs the likes of Castano, Molina.

    Lara is overrated.

    And Tito was better at 154 than the version of Canelo that Lara fought.
     
  10. PthePuncher

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    He can sharp shoot if you stand there and watch him do it but if you press him he has to move backwards and he can’t generate offense if hes constantly backing up. Against Trinidad he’d not only be constantly backing up he’d have to be aware of the long right hand. If he doesn’t get whacked with something in the early to mid rounds he’s going to end up tired and running hoping to land a lucky left hand and whenever he throws it he’s at risk of getting stuck in front of Trinidad.
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Crawford said he didn’t think Canelo hit that hard. He'd been hit harder in the lighter weight classes.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Trinidad hit a Lil harder than Mean Machine. Just a Lil
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    "He is one-dimensional... He cannot fight smart fighters. Look what happened when he fought [me]... Can I take Tito's best punch? I don't intend to find out."
     
  15. Ike

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    It would be a very interesting match and I'd say Lara on points with a margin that is not wide but clear. I think the Cuban southpaw's elusive defense, Ring I.Q, footwork, and counterpunching skills would have prevailed over Tito's aggression, power, workrate and stamina, who would have been dangerous until the end.