Foreman's defense vs Frazier's left hook

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Just bizzare. Look at the sequence from 2:20 to 2:26. Joe threw two terrific left hooks yet Foreman evaded both of them. Joe looked like he put 120% into both shots.

    Then u look between 2:33 to 2:40. Joe throws two big hooks yet George catches them both with his guard completely stopping them from landing with any power.

    I love Joe but even i will admit he had no major offensive weapon outside of the left hook. A good body shot right hand but hardly something that would stop top guys.

    Its just bizzare how bad a stylistic match up Foreman's was for Frazier. Not only could George hurt Joe with every possible punch - jab, right hand, right uppercut, left uppercut, and ironically the left hook - to make matters worse, Foreman turned into Willie Pep when it came to defending left hooks :lol: - Joe's one and only true power punch. Jesus.
     
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    Frazier was rocked at the time. It's hard to time punches when your head has an alarm whistle going off in it and your operating system is resetting. Earlier he was able to land his left hooks. Foreman was simply too big and tough for Frazier.
     
  3. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    Not really, even earlier in the match his hooks were either fully blocked or just grazed past Foreman’s arms. Foreman’s defense was phenomenal in this match.
     
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    Literally the first punch Frazier throws is a left hook and it lands flush :rolleyes:
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    true though the earlier hooks weren't full power hooks. He was firing quick hooks without much on most of them in order to get into a rhythm.
     
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  6. Mike Cannon

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    Hi Buddy.
    Like the post ( as ever ) interesting that your goodself and many, many posters when discussing this fight referer to how Foreman was " all bad " for Frazier, " bad stylistically " or words to that effect, because let me tell you, nobody but nobody, was of that opinion when the fight was mooted, very few pundits, reporters, historians, predicted a win for Foreman, in fact the talk was more how long George would last, at that stage in his career, he was seen as slightly cumbersome, slow underfoot, Peralta had exposed him somewhat, he was fed too many patsy's was the refrain, whilst on the other hand Frazier was still being lauded for the FOTC, sure he had a couple since, Daniels and the rather, a bit too tough Stander, but he was viewed as unbeatable, I don't think we fully took into account the short and long term effect of the herculean effort the Ali fight took out of him, the Kingston Frazier was a rather fat fighter, that looked out of shape, I remember there was a interview with him a few days before the fight, he was outside by a pool, he looked heavy of face, sweating profusely,and during the piece, he drank from a huge bottle, after almost every sentence, he took long swigs from the bottle, wiser fans than me remarked that this was not a good look, he was taking on far too much water was the common consensus, but it was a huge shock when he was dismissed with such alacritty, I saw the fight live at the pictures at 4am, the whole place was stunned into silence, complete strangers were looking at each other and shaking their heads, so I offer myself a rue smile when I read that Foreman was all wrong for Frazier, he wasnt before the fight.
    stay safe dmt, chat soon buddy.
    Mike.
     
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    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    As usual from you Mike,this is an excellent post
     
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  8. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Noel.
    Thank you mate, coming from your goodself, someone who I have admired, and have the utmost respect for, means even more.
    stay safe buddy, chat soon.
    your friend Mike.
     
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  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is knowing boxing from the ‘inside out’ as Chris Eubank Sr says, as opposed to from the outside in….
     
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  10. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    Are you seriously basing your argument off of a single hook he landed when he missed 10x more?
     
  11. ManassaMahler

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    Joe actually lands a couple clean in the rematch - to cheers from the crowd each time - but they did absolutely nothing to phase George.
     
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