Winners Giving Their Defeated Opponent's Belts Back.

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  1. since93sports

    since93sports Since93Sports Full Member

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    When fighter gives their defeated opponent's belt back, it just feels cringe to me. The winner claims it is a show of respect to the defeated fighter, but I feel like it is a way for the winner to subtly display dominance over their opponent one last time. If it was done out of respect it would be done in private away from the cameras instead of being done on stage at the post-fight press conference in front of the media. I have seen two fighters do this that I can remember off the top of my head. Crawford with Spence Jr./Canelo, then Benevidez with Morell. To me it is obvious the winner is doing this as a slight because this process has been in place for a while and I never saw this done in the past. I am a fan of both fighters but wanted to see if anyone else noticed this and thought it was wrong.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The defending champion is actually the owner of that belt. Each time a guy wins a world title, his new belt is mailed to him. His name is often inscribed on the belt itself.

    He's then supposed to bring that belt with him to every defense.

    Whether he wins or loses, it's his. When he is defeated, the winning fighter is handed the belt as a symbolic gesture.

    He can take pictures with the belt or otherwise celebrate with it. The winner (if it is the challenger) is supposed to give the belt back before he leaves the arena. It's not his.

    So, what you're witnessing isn't an INSULT. He's just returning the guy's property to him in camera view. But he has to give it back before they all leave anyway.

    They don't make a new belt before every title fight in case the challenger wins. They make him a belt after the fact (should he win) and then the org mails it to him.
     
  3. since93sports

    since93sports Since93Sports Full Member

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    I understand how everything works my issue is the winner presenting the belts back to the defeated champion in front of the media
     
  4. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember watching a fight years back. I think it was Kostya Tzsyu v Jake Rodriguez. The Aussie TV coverage had a camera in Tszyus dressing room post fight. When Rodriguez's people came down to get the belt, the Tszyu team wouldn't give it back. Either they didn't know the protocol or they did and wanted to make a scene.
     
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  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember Bam bringing Sunny Edward's belts back to him after the fight, in Sunny's locker room. The vid of it was posted. Bam was back to quiet and polite, and Sunny said something to the effect of "I like you a LOT more outside of the ring". :D
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember John Ruiz losing to Valuev, and Ruiz's manager Norman Stone, who was a hothead who didn't agree with the decision, storming the ring and snatching the belt back, and Valuev's people punching him and grabbing it back again. :rolleyes:

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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You don't conquer a territory or a country and then give it back to the people you conquered as a token gesture after doing so. If you want it back or your belt back you have to fight for it and take it back off them via force :facepalm:
     
  8. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hated that guy, Stone. It was awesome when he copped one in the chops.
     
  9. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Character, Stoney

    "Youve got no balls you ****ing **** sucker!"
     
  10. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No problem with a fighter showing symbolic respect if they think it's been earned. Operating in good faith shows humility. Its the defeated fighters belt anyway
     
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  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stoney was (is ?) an original.
     
  12. LiamInChains

    LiamInChains Active Member Full Member

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    Totally agree, it’s patronising and embarrassing.
     
  13. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The belts are completely unnecessary.
    I watch loads of old fights. Great fighters. Real champions.
    I don't see them coming into the ring with belts prior to about 1979 or 1980.
    Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sonny Liston, Joe Louis didn't need to parade into the ring with a load of tacky belts round them.

    Nowadays you get these guys with "4 belts" or even 5 or 6 belts, having entourage members carrying them in for them too, and defending against guys who already had 1 or 2 "interim belts".

    The belts don't even look good.
    It's gay as ****, let's be honest.