I am happy Usyk chose to fight Wilder, It basically closes the book on this chapter of the division

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Half those rankings are bogus.

    Facts are Usyk is 38 and has been a road warrior his whole career. Crying over this after the career he gave to us is low. Do better.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well he can retire or vacate the belts no one is stopping him.

    If this was Crawford you'd be all over this ranting about how Crawford is fighting a meaningless fight.

    The fact is Usyk isn't very active and he's stalling the division with a totally rubbish irrelevant fight especially when he holds all the belts.

    No one is criticising Usyk's resume but the rematches the inactivity and now with this pointless Wilder fight people's patience are starting to wear a bit thin.

    I think fans just want the division to move on with meaningful fights.

    If Usyk doesn't intend to fight top contenders anymore and he doesn't want to be active that's fine but then vacate the belts so the division can move on.

    Waiting a whole year for Usyk to have 1 fight against a 40 year old totally shot Wilder is not what I want to see for the future of the Heavyweight division.
     
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  3. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder, after being completely shut out by Parker, was obliterated by Zhang, and Zhang was taken apart by Kabayel.

    No, Usyk doesn't deserve a pass.
    Not only is Deontay Wilder nowhere near any reasonable heavyweight rankings (he'd be lucky to get placed in a top 40 or top 50), he's 40 years old and completely and demonstrably 'shot' to pieces.
     
  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    On top of which, he was always MASSIVELY overrated...
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I bet this win would be ranked somewhat well in decades from now, even tho it shouldn't. There will be that magical element of Usyk having beaten the 3 biggest names of this era.
     
  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no legacy privilage in boxing. Either you've done enough, then you should retire, or you stay a champion and fight worthy opponents.
     
  7. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    Look at Usyks last 5 opponents, You can take an easy fight now and again if you beat everyone you had to beat.
    It is like when Floyd fought Berto, He beat everyone he was supposed to beat,so whats the problem?
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yet every champion has done something like this. Name me one top p4p fighter in the past 15 years that hasn’t done a Wilder type fight? Yes, if he does it 3-5 fights in a row that’s a diff story.
     
  9. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "How in the blue **** hasn’t Wardley earned it? Wildest cinderella story in boxing."

    You answered your own question. Structually he has the interim title and I get all the politics but hes a more boring version of the Wilder fight.
     
  10. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    There was a point, long gone now, when this fight would have been relevant. But we are waay past it now (as is Wilder). I get that a Wilder win would add some name 'recognition,' historically, as he is from the big four of the era. And I suppose I'd be more forgiving if it was Usyk's last fight. But Wilder is SO obviously finished now it's a hard one to support and justify.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't remember a single top P4P fighter in the past 15 years fighting a fighter who is 2-4 in their last 6 fights whilst being a totally shot 40 year old.

    The closest would be Mayweather vs Berto who was 3-3 in his last 6 fights.

    But Berto was atleast coming off a solid win vs Josesito Lopez for the WBA interim title.

    And Berto atleast showed he had something left after the Mayweather fight beating Victor Ortiz in a rematch and beating Devon Alexander.

    Not to mention the context of Berto's losses prior to Mayweather fight were alot better than Wilder's losses.

    Berto lost to Ortiz in the fight of the year.

    Berto lost to Karass in another action packed fight that was razor thin close on the scorecards.

    In comparison to Wilder....

    Wilder lost 12-0 to Parker without throwing a right hand in anger.

    Wilder got highlight reel KO'ed by Zhang in 5 rounds.

    Wilder didn't win a single round in any of these fights.

    So no not really comparable this is a horrible fight and Usyk should get criticised for it.
     
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  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Very strange choice for Uysk

    As good as his career has been, you can't help but criticise this one if it comes off
     
  13. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd had established guys at 147 he could have fought instead of Berto. Looking back, he probably should have just fought Kell Brook. Usyk doesn't really have anyone like that in the division right now, Parker was deserving but he lost.
     
  14. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Facts are Usyk is 38 and has been a road warrior his whole career. Crying over this after the career he gave to us is low. Do better."

    Yes Usyk has had a long and storied career. He beat three people twice and Derek Chisora he has nothing left to prove.