Who Fares Better Against Prime Holmes?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No worries mate,each to their own.
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Really?
    I mean really???
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Your my very own stalker..:confused:
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    So odd, how ESB Holmes was so much better than Holmes in real life. ESB Holmes beats ATGs with ease, while real-world Holmes was struggling to pull away against the rather mediocre opposition he actually did face.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    They would both give him hell
     
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  6. NewChallenger

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    Usyk faced worse opposition at heavyweight and his decisions against them were not blowouts.
    Fighters of the 70s and 80s were fundamentally stronger than heavyweights today.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    Joshua and Fury were tougher challenges than anyone Holmes beat. He fought them four times.
     
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  8. NewChallenger

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    Joshua got knocked out by Ruiz for crying out loud, It is a contrast to Bruno who got knocked out sure, but when you look at who knocked Bruno out, Frank has nothing to be ashamed of, Joshua kind of does as he showed up in shape.
    And Fury almost lost to Ngannou so we can see how shot to bits he was. The Fury that fought Wlad and the Fury that fought Usyk are not the same person, add on the brain damage from wilder and the drug abuse, and there is not much left for Usyk to fight.
     
  9. NoNeck

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    Holmes never fought Bruno and Fury was in very good form for the Usyk fights. You're all over the place. MSG Ruiz would also beat Cooney, Truth, and possibly Norton.
     
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  10. NewChallenger

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    My point was about how Frank Bruno and Joshua was the same. And that joshua somehow got knoced out by a nobody
     
  11. NoNeck

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    Joshua successfully made title defenses, unlike Bruno, and Ruiz would also have beaten Bruno on that night or any of his "on" nights prior to that.
     
  12. NewChallenger

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    Look at what Era Bruno was fighitng in , Lol.
    You think Joshua would even hold a title back then?

    And I don't believe Ruiz would've imo.
     
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  13. NoNeck

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    Yes, Joshua would've beaten Mcall and a poorly conditioned Witherspoon.
     
  14. NewChallenger

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    If Mccall can get to Lewis,he can get to Joshua
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    He could've gotten to Bruno too.