Is John L at his absolute best the best H2H fighter ever?

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  1. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    You're opinions..?
     
    Greb & Papke 707, Dec 2, 2025 at 6:34 PM
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Abso-F'ING-lutely!!!
     
    Seamus, Dec 2, 2025 at 6:36 PM
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  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jack Twin Sullivan is a better HW H2H then John L. By a lot.
     
    HistoryZero26, Dec 2, 2025 at 7:09 PM
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Boo! Wrong! Wrong!
     
    Seamus, Dec 2, 2025 at 7:15 PM
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  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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    Probably the best H2H heavyweight before Dempsey.
     
    Melankomas, Dec 2, 2025 at 7:20 PM
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  6. BCS8

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    Easily. The extensive high quality footage that we have access to, proves this beyond the shadow of a doubt.
     
    BCS8, Dec 2, 2025 at 9:01 PM
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd easily put him in the top 5 roughest
     
    Reinhardt, Dec 3, 2025 at 9:13 AM
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  8. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Astute analysis, Seamus. It's as close as we can get to the truth of the matter.
     
    KasimirKid, Dec 4, 2025 at 7:59 AM
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    As far as Head goes, I hear he was the best.
     
    Boxed Ears, Dec 4, 2025 at 8:39 AM
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You could maybe say for a short spell he was further ahead of his peers than any other heavyweight champion head to head? Does that feel reasonable?
     
    McGrain, Dec 4, 2025 at 8:40 AM
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  11. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would he beat John fury?
     
    JackSilver, Dec 4, 2025 at 9:09 AM
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm sure he would have energy left after KO'ing Tyson Fury.
     
    Seamus, Dec 4, 2025 at 9:32 AM
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  13. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    I thought this post was about John Gardner !!
     
    Turnip mk3, Dec 4, 2025 at 9:39 AM
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wardley beats him into human pate.
    The hands down stance simply can't hang with modern styles.
     
    dinovelvet, Dec 4, 2025 at 9:54 AM
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