Usyk Should Be Criticized For Fighting Wilder

George Crowcroft · Dec 3, 2025 at 10:32 AM

Absolute **** fight.

mrbigshot · Dec 3, 2025 at 10:45 AM

Only here people discuss .

In real world usyk should not be critisized but is not worth a discussion anymore.

Bokaj · Dec 3, 2025 at 12:49 PM

Joeywill said: ↑

First and foremost, Usyk has always fought the best and most deserving challengers of his era so big respect

However

If Usyk chooses to fight Wilder he should be criticized for it

Wilder is not ranked and hasnt had a meaningful win vs a legit ranked opponent since Luis Ortiz which was over 6 years ago

Wilder was not competitive in his last 2 fights vs ranked opposition, losing almost every round vs Parker and getting knocked out by Zhang.

Wilder is also 40

This would be a straight cash out fight for Usyk and he should be held to the same standard that other great fighters would be held to if they did something like this
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I agree. If he made another two defences, both of them good, it's one thing, but if it's his only fight next year it's really bad.

Special K · Dec 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM

Veys9 said: ↑

Usyk said he wants to fight Jake Paul in the Octagon. An he's been seen in Thailand in his recent videos. Is he secretly training Muay Thai/MMA in his current absence? Possibly for future showfights...
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He’s just there for the wbc convention.

Pepsi Dioxide · Dec 3, 2025 at 2:11 PM

Anthony Baby Jones, a former lightweight contender KOd Julian Jackson, one of the hardest punchers ever when Jackson got old and couldn't pull the trigger anymore

Wilder isn't anywhere near as good as Jackson was but is just as shot as when Jones KOd him.

Also Usyk is much better than Baby Jones. So I expect Usyk to beat Wilder like a drum.

boxingscience · Dec 3, 2025 at 2:49 PM

Usyk is in a situation where he has beaten everybody worth beating and in my opinion he's waiting for moses Itauma in a same way floyd fought canelo to try and beat the young while he's quite green. It could backfire, but the risk is it'll possibly look great to have beaten moses Itauma who's being talked about being the next great thing.

Joeywill · Dec 3, 2025 at 3:26 PM

mrbigshot said: ↑

Only here people discuss .

In real world usyk should not be critisized but is not worth a discussion anymore.
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Only on here is Usyk discussed

In the real world almost no one knows who Usyk is

Especially in America

tarrant45 · Dec 3, 2025 at 3:29 PM

Its a pointless fight but I can't dog on him super hard since it's his first light touch in a long time. If it was a pattern like Canelo it's a different story. It will do nothing for his HW legacy to beat a shot Wilder, unlike if he beat a young lion, which he has not done yet at HW.

cuchulain · Dec 3, 2025 at 3:55 PM

Joeywill said: ↑

First and foremost, Usyk has always fought the best and most deserving challengers of his era so big respect

However

If Usyk chooses to fight Wilder he should be criticized for it

Wilder is not ranked and hasnt had a meaningful win vs a legit ranked opponent since Luis Ortiz which was over 6 years ago

Wilder was not competitive in his last 2 fights vs ranked opposition, losing almost every round vs Parker and getting knocked out by Zhang.

Wilder is also 40

This would be a straight cash out fight for Usyk and he should be held to the same standard that other great fighters would be held to if they did something like this
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Over the last four years, Usyk has faced better opposition than any other heavyweight.

So nearing 40, he can choose anybody he pleases for his next ( last ?) fight as far as I'm concerned.

Mickc · Dec 3, 2025 at 4:14 PM

The only Usyk fight I want to see is the Kabayel fight ! He is the most worthy challenger imo and certainly the only fighter at this current time with the style and ring savvy to,possibly beat Usyk. I can’t see it happening,but just imagine if the completely shot Wilder KOs Usyk !!

Serge · Dec 3, 2025 at 5:08 PM

Usyk has forged an entire career avoiding soft touches and instead not only taking on the best and hard touches B2B but doing so in their backyards or on the road vs every style and whilst running a gauntlet of savage punchers and legit bangers and giving away huge physical advantages at HW and everyone he's fought at the world level were 36 or younger. When a 40lb heavier Chisora is your 2nd best opponent in a decade and in all your fights since moving up to the world level, in Chisora's backyard, in what was just your 2nd fight at HW to help you acclimatize facing much bigger men and to build more interest in a fight vs the three-belt unified champ countryman of Chisora, it says it all. Didn't Holyfield have like six fights at HW before facing the champ?

Other world champions a d multi weight champions have forged careers avoiding the best in their own backyard stacked in their favour or have spent spells or long spells doing so and fought plenty of soft touches who even if said soft touches had been winning stood zero chance of winning because they were way overmatched or undersized and they did this during their primes too. Or often dragging opponents up in weight, avoiding certain styles or punchers, refusing to ever travel to their opponent"s backyards, weight bullying the crap out of much naturally smaller fighters and even when they move up to their 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th weight are still either bigger than their opponents or at worst roughly are roughly the same size as them or only a little smaller. Or being extremely dirty fighters whose style and success hinges on the heavy use of illegal tactics. Usyk's career has been a complete inversion of that but y'all are trying h to hang him from the gallows for taking a soft touch at 39 y/o at the end stage of his career, a career spent facing the best pretty much B2B against a devastating puncher who has KO'd 43 of his 44 victims. Shame on you. Shame on you

catchwtboxing · Dec 3, 2025 at 6:17 PM

I'm going to watch it.

mrbigshot · Dec 3, 2025 at 9:09 PM

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...deontay-wilder-eligible-to-challenge-for-belt

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/sport/usky-wilder-wbc-title-ruling-heavyweight-b2877533.html

It appears wilder is lifted suddenly to wbc top 10 so usyk can claim this nonsense fight is a wbc title defence !

PrimoGT · Dec 4, 2025 at 2:54 AM

It's a disgrace.

LiamInChains · Dec 4, 2025 at 3:47 AM

Dubblechin said: ↑

Wilder's been knocked out by two fighters in a nearly 50-fight career. Both were highly ranked and both had huge weight advantages over him. Nearly 70 pounds, in Zhang's case.

Usyk and Wilder will weigh roughly the same.

Also, styles make fights. Wilder doesn't get hit a lot (even when he loses) and has the perfect style to beat Usyk. His right hand is the perfect counter to Usyk's aggressive southpaw style. Wilder won't spend the whole time (or any time) trying to win a boxing match. He knows what he has to do. The question will be, can he do it?

Speaking of not taking a lot of punches, Wilder was unmarked after the Parker fight and mistakenly raised his hands thinking he'd done enough to win on points. Compare that to guys who fought Parker, like Wardley, who had the snot beaten out of him before Fabio managed to come back and get a controversial stoppage. Wilder doesn't get hit nearly as much as people imagine him getting hit. He stays out of range most of the time.

So, Usyk's going to have to be aggressive, and that plays into the only way Wilder can win.

When Ali took easy defenses, he fought Richard Dunn and Jean Pierre Coopman. When Frazier did, he fought Dave Zyglewicz. When Foreman did it, he fought Joe King Roman.

If Usyk's "easy" defense is against a comebacking former champ who made 10 successful heavyweight title defenses, that's another leg up for Usyk an the all-time list.
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None of that matters because Wilder is FINISHED... FINISHED. He struggled with that floor mopper he fought earlier this year.

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