Joe Calzaghe - Modern Day Fantasy Gauntlet

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I ever feel insane I'll visit this thread and witness true, genuine insanity that lives within these Calzaghe fans.

    Some of them have Joe beating an iron chinned, skilled puncher in Breidis in a, get this, DIVISION CALZAGHE HAS NEVER COMPETED IN. Joe looked like dog**** at 175 against shot old men.
     
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Goes 4-0 at 168 (GGG would be a live dog due to styles)

    Goes 0-3 against 3 Russians at 175, 50/50 vs Ward.

    Huck and Briedis are no small cruiserweights so I’ve no idea how they’d look trying to make 185.
     
  3. MorvidusStyle

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    This is going to hurt the madhouse residents, but it has to be done.

    vs GGG - 168lbs
    GGG by TKO. Calzaghe has low power, GGG will get hit a lot but walk through him like all the slicks he faced.

    vs Saul Canelo Alvarez - 168lbs
    Cazaghe by decision maybe, if Canelo isn't fully roided. The Canelo that caught and smashed Saunders can do the same to Calzaghe.
    So roid Canelo by decision with KD's or TKO.

    vs Carl Froch - 168lbs
    Froch by TKO. Same as GGG fight, or the real life Bute-Froch fight. No power to keep him off so Froch walks him down. Calzaghe hits nowhere near as hard as Groves and Froch still walked through that.

    vs James DeGale - 168lbs
    Calzaghe by decision probably. Could lose though.

    vs Sergey Kovalev - 175lbs
    The utter destruction of Calzaghe. This isn't competive at all. It's like the unsettling Cleverly fight but Calzaghe can't take that much damage and goes down like a sack of potatoes as soon as the first RH bomb lands. His power doesn't worry Kovalev at all.

    vs Artur Beterbiev - 175lbs
    A very horrific stoppage of Calzaghe, slower than Kovalev's clinical KO, but similar outcome.

    vs Dmitry Bivol - 175lbs
    Bivol by UD. Calzaghe can't hurt him so probably loses.

    Andre Ward - 175lbs
    Ward has no power so this one could be close.
    Calzaghe or Ward by close decision, who knows.

    vs Mairis Breidis - 185-188lb Catchweight
    LOL

    vs - Marco Huck 185-188lb Catchweight
    LOL 2

    SUMMARY. Calzaghe can possibly beat Canelo, Degale and Ward by decision but could also lose to them.
     
  4. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are insane if you think Froch beats Zags! Joe UD 7 days of the week and twice on Sunday. Did u not see how Froch was against Dirrel? Now apply Joe's handspeed and angles and footwork to the mix.

    Froch is the one on that last I am 100% certain that Joe beats and beats comfortably
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It always makes me chuckle when people pick other fighters to knock Joe out, and many of the fighters they pick to do so make it even more amusing, like he didn't have an excellent chin in his prime. He fought a lot of big punchers and he wasn't running or holding on for dear life he went to war with many of them and he fought numerous ones whilst injured and not even having sparred. Joe was a if you hit me, I'm immediately going to get me get back type of fighter.

    Chin

    This is Joe vs the fighter Froch says is the hardest puncher he ever fought, an injury-ravaged Calzaghe who had only sparred 14 rounds in 2 years.

    He doesn't only eat massive flush bomb KO shots he eats many KO or KD shots in quick succession and he eats them like a boss

    You simply cannot watch these videos and not be very impressed by his chin and his heart too

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    Eating flush bomb after bomb from the big punching Eubank. Observe how Joe walks through them all and many head clashes without it even deterring him one bit

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    Carl Froch Best I Faced:

    BEST PUNCHER

    ''Robin Reid: He hurt me the most with a single shot. I can’t say George Groves because he caught me square on in the first fight, when I left my feet behind me. That was a heavy knockdown made worse by my balance being off. Also, after his fast start dwindled, I came on strong, so I can’t say Groves. I remember Reid hitting me and saying, ‘beeping hell, that hurt.’ Jermain Taylor had me down, but that was more of a sharp shot. Robin Reid could really bang, and in my opinion he deserved the win over Joe Calzaghe in their fight. That said, Calzaghe had to be tough to walk through the right hands he took from Reid.''

    ''Froch does hit hard but again not the hardest puncher I've been in with ROBIN REID hit harder when he was in his prime.''

    --Tony Dodson

    Richie Woodhall

    BEST CHIN

    ''Calzaghe: He was a tough geezer. I wasn’t a devastating puncher; I was more of a worker, and that showed against Calzaghe. I hit him many times but nothing affected him''

    Mikkel Kessler

    ''Joe was also awkward and effective. And he could take a punch. I would say I hit Joe with some of my hardest shots ever and he took them. Carl is more a hard hitter but he’s slow. But Carl doesn’t respect anything. Even if you hit him really hard he will still come forward''
     
  6. Serge

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    Power

    Prior to his metacarpals becoming as brittle as twiglets, Joe was a big puncher

    How do you recall the (Joe) Calzaghe fight?

    ''The main thing I remember about Calzaghe was how hard he punched. I thought he had bricks in his gloves at one point. On top of that - he was big, he was strong, he was hearty, he had fast hand speed and he had a very awkward southpaw stance.

    He was unbeaten, he didn't know how to lose.

    On top of all that, he puts me down in the opening 15 seconds, for only the second clean knockdown of my life. (Laughs) .''

    ''I've never been knocked down in the first round before Joe hit me with a powerful left-hand punch, which I never saw, and within half a minute of the bell ringing I was having to pick myself up and deal with the realization that I was in for a long night. That punch really hurt and thereafter it was a tough fight.''

    Joe obviously went on to be an exceptionally great world champion.''

    --- Chris Eubank

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    ''I started out [professional] with the Ingles. I used to do a lot of body sparring with the likes of Bomber Graham, Johnny Nelson and Naseem Hamed. Nelson never had any bottle: he used to nick fights running away. But Naz was ******* brilliant - so elusive and he hit really hard. Even when he were just 15, he told my uncle to get his autograph 'cos he were going to be a superstar.

    Nigel Benn used me seven times over in Tenerife, including for the Gerald McClellan fight. I had a big bet, three figures, on McClellan to win in the first round at about 10-1. And he would've if the ref hadn't kept interrupting. Nige and me would spar half-an-hour a day, then both go out on the ****. We always had a headguard and 16 oz gloves and often I'd outjab him. Nigel weren't a liberty-taker.

    But the best I've been inside the ring with was Joe Calzaghe in sparring. Beforehand, I thought he were quite boring to watch and looked as if he slapped but, **** me, he punches hard. If he slapped, Bernard Hopkins would've stood toe-to-toe with Joe, but he [Hopkins] got on his bike, didn't he? If Joe and Nigel had fought, I think Joe would have been able to take the pain and would've ended up hurting Nigel, bit like Michael Watson did.''

    --- Tony Booth

    ''I thought I'd been hit by a lorry''

    --- Karl Barwise

    ''This kid has everything''

    --- Spencer Alton

    ''I've never been hit so hard and so often''

    --- Andy Flute

    "After working with Robin Reid last month I was already buzzing, but when the call came to work with Joe, well he's the best on the planet," he told Seconds Out.

    "I was invited down to work with Joe for five days and I've enjoyed every minute. This has been a fantastic opportunity for me.

    "I can see why he's the champ now. Joe punches hard and fast''

    --- Tony Quigley

    ''Calzaghe can punch very hard''

    --- Nicky Piper

    ''A lot of people think Joe can't punch but he's actually very heavy handed''

    --- Enzo Maccarinelli

    The hardest puncher I fought (long pause) that?s a real tough one

    ''I dished out a lot more punishment than I ever took during my career, but I'd have to say the toughest and most exciting fight I ever had was with Joe Calzaghe,'' Brewer said.

    Joe was not a one-punch KO kind of guy, but he overwhelmed guys; he had those ridiculous combinations! And I deviated from my game-plan that night in Wales, and we just warred; we went two-to-toe for 12-rounds. It was a battle of heart and guts. Joe was just a great technical, mentally draining, puncher''

    --- Charles Brewer

    Even in the amateurs with big gloves and headgear on he was a big puncher

    He stopped all but one of his opponents on route to winning his 2nd and 3rd consecutive ABA titles and at different weights, meaning in his first year at LMW he stopped all his opponents, and in his first year at MW he stopped all but one of his opponents and these weren't scrubs - two of them went on to become professional world champions and one of the others a really talented European pro champion

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  7. Loudon

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    The TS has said hypothetical prime versions though.

    So would that make any difference to your choices?
     
  8. Loudon

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    But you’ve said prime versions.

    No point having them compromised.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Breidis?
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love reading everyone’s opinions, and I respect yours, although I have to be honest, I think it’s quite bizarre.

    GGG never did anything in his career to have been favoured over Joe by knockout.

    And I have no idea how you have him losing to GGG, yet have him beating Breidis and everyone else.

    There’s simply no logic to it.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    He was knocked down 4 4times in his career, and he barely beat Reid and struggled with Hopkins.
     
  12. Loudon

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    Laughable.
     
  13. Loudon

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    Being very hittable and getting dropped, is very relevant here, for very obvious reasons.

    Yes, of course it showed great adversity.

    But there’s a world of difference between being hit by Salem, Mitchell and Hopkins, to being hit by Beterbiev, Kovalev and Breidis etc.


    Calzaghe was more past it than Jones?

    Ha!


    He moved up to Roy’s division?

    He should have been there years earlier.


    Calzaghe beat him in Hopkins’s own weight class?

    He’d only been there a few years himself.


    Bernard was still great, but he needed the right opponents, with the right style.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Calzaghe found a way to win??

    Joe only fought about a dozen world level fighters in his entire 15 year career. And most of those were B level guys.

    Nine of Roy’s 10 losses, came from between 35-54.
     
  15. Loudon

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    I’ve never believed that he’d have made Carl look silly.

    And I’ve always been 50/50 on the Ward fight.
     
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