Your score for Whitaker vs De La Hoya?

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  1. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Oscar Del a Hoya vs Pernell Whitaker

    1. Pea 10-9 (Pea 10-9)
    2. Pea 20-18 (Pea 10-9)
    3. Even 28-28 (Hoya 10-8)*
    4. Pea 38-37 (Pea 10-9)
    5. Pea 48-46 (Pea 10-9)
    6. Pea 57-56 (Hoya 10-9)
    7. Even 66-66 (Hoya 10-9)
    8. Hoya 76-75 (Hoya 10-9)
    9. Pea 85-84 (Pea 10-8)
    10. Even 94-94 (Hoya 10-9)
    11. Pea 104-103 (Pea 10-9)
    12. Pea 114-112 (Pea 10-9)

    *Pretty stupid rule with the headbutt, but it was part of the rules so I've taken the extra point from Pea
     
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  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Review the fight of the week for this fight. Many scorecards were given there. I had Pea, just barely.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I felt Oscar won it, but the margin was closer than the judges had it. If your the type how thinks light jabs landed win a round, Whitaker did that. If you think power punches landed win rounds Oscar did that.

    Oscar De La Hoya would ultimately win the bout by unanimous decision with two scores of 116–110 and 115–111. There was controversy, however, as the bout appeared closer than what the lopsided scores showed. (In fact, there were a lot of ringside observers & sportswriters who felt that Whitaker won the fight. Whitaker outpunched De La Hoya, landing 232 punches to De La Hoya's 191 and dominated with his jab, scoring 160 while De La Hoya only landed 45. Whitaker also scored the fight's lone knockdown, as he caught De La Hoya off balance with a left hook late in the ninth round, De La Hoya quickly rose up as if he had slipped, but referee Mills Lane ruled it a knockdown. Though De La Hoya did not land as many punches or jabs as Whitaker, he had a distinct advantage in power punches, landing 146 to Whitaker's 72, which may have swayed the judges in his favor.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    115-112 for Oscar. He was the boss. By a certain time, folks were willing to bend over backwards to give Pernell rounds that he didn't win, often citing some fleeting moments of cuteness that by their supposed representation of high unattainable skill were suitable to overshadow Oscar's heavy-handed work.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  7. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You crack me up and I enjoy your take on things. Even when I disagree.
     
  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had it 114-113 Whitaker
    6-6 in round and Whitaker had the knockdown
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    SweetPea 116-111.
    Oscar didn't appear to have a gameplan on how to attack Whitaker. Pernell wasn't burning up the canvas but he didn't need to Oscar played into his hands.
    Not a fun fight to watch. Whitaker spoiled DelaHoya's party.

    That was a buisness nite for HBO.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1 Whitaker
    2 ODLH
    3 ODLH 10-8 Whitaker automatically gets a point deducted due to the WBC rules about accidental clash of heads.
    4 ODLH
    5 Whitaker
    6 ODLH
    7 Whitaker
    8 ODLH
    9 Whitaker 10-8 knockdown
    10 Whitaker
    11 Whitaker
    12 ODLH

    113-113 Draw.
     
  11. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    114-113 Whitaker. There should have been a rematch, the same way there should have been one against Chavez which I clearly feel Whitaker should have won.
     
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  12. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I wouldn’t swear by my card, but I’m not watching it again so it will have to do.


    Pernell Whitaker v Oscar De La Hoya

    Here’s my card:

    1 DLH
    2 DLH
    3 DLH (2 point round - Extra point deduction against Whitaker makes it 10-8)
    4 DLH (close - Whitaker’s defensive skills starting to come into play but DLH scored the only meaningful punches of the round in between missing a lot).
    5 Whitaker (how do you score that?! One guy is coming forward and throwing but missing, the other is showing amazing reflexes and showboating but not throwing much or landing himself. Oscar getting frustrated switches to southpaw. Whitaker wins on ring generalship)
    6 Whitaker
    7 Whitaker (close - Whitaker seems to be controlling the pace of the fight at this point)
    8 DLH (close - Tough round to score. Defensive skills from Sweetpea but DLH seemed to land the more telling punches)
    9 Whitaker (two point round - Knockdown call against DLH seemed debatable)
    10 DLH
    11 DLH (close and ugly)
    12 DLH
    DLH 115-111 Whitaker

    My impression of this one was that Whitaker didn’t do enough offensively to take this. He showed great defensive skills and ring generalship but De La Hoya took it home over the final two or three rounds by being busier - kind of the reverse of his performance against Trinidad.

    There were plenty of close and hard to score rounds and DLH seemed to change style and tactics on several occasions- fought flatfooted in the early stages, switched to southpaw as Whitaker started to frustrate him, then started boxing and moving. All of that could be seen as a victory of sorts for Whitaker but Sweetpea seemed content to make Oscar miss, not really make him pay. And sure, Oscar missed and missed a lot. But when he got through, his were the more meaningful blows.

    Entertainment value: 5/10
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker v Oscar DeLaHoya (welterweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 2: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 3: 10-9 DeLaHoya (I actually had it 10-10 but that was a silly decision to deduct a point for the accidental butt from PW)
    Round 4: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 5: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 6: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 7: 10-10 Even
    Round 8: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 9: 10-8 Whitaker (bad call on the knockdown - no officials seemed to notice that OD's left leg and Pw's right leg was tangled)
    Round 10: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 11: 10-10 Even
    Round 12: 10-9 DeLaHoya

    Total: 115-114 DeLaHoya (actual scores: 115-111, 116-110 and another 116-110 all for Oscar)

    I had it closer than the judges but the same winner. Can't see their scoring at all. Very close here.
     
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  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Scar, I had the same score as the slightly narrower score from one judge - in my opinion, it was just one of those fights where it’s a question of what you like, but I do find Whitaker a tough fighter to score and to watch. I reckon if I watched it again, my tally might look quite different. But I’m not going to!
     
  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I always thought Pea beat Oscar and it wasn't even that close.
    Hell Pea even dropped Oscar and still somehow lost.
    If you think about it all three of his losses were after his prime and the one "loss" to Ramirez was a robbery.
     
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