Rank Ray Leonard Thomas Hearns Floyd Mayweather Terence Crawford

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Crawford has had the better career because he won all of his fights?

    You’re either trolling or are clueless.

    That’s a casual fan statement.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would they have penalised them?
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran, Benitez, Hill and a controversial draw with the great sugar ray leonard. Hearns record has a much better top half, he has the better wins of the 2 and fought better opponents, but after these 4 fights his resume takes a nosedive and unlike Crawford he lost to a much lower level guy and struggled with Kinchen. He beat several ranked contenders but so did Bud. I have Crawford slightly above him for all time rankings

    Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, Terence Crawford, Thomas Hearns. It's a great debate though
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    His career did take a nosedive.

    But there was no shame in losing to Barkley.

    Barkley was no pushover. He gave a prime Nunn a great fight.

    Terence barely beat Madramov.

    Terence fought much easier opposition.

    We also don’t know what he’d have done with Barkley, and especially if he’d already lost a few fights before having fought him.
     
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  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns was 29 against Barkley, Crawford was 37 against Madrimov. It's also generally viewed as a clear win for Crawford while Hearns was kayoed without controversy by Barkley.

    So not even remotely similar. And of course losing to a guy who went 0 for 3 against Nunn, Kalambay, and even Benn is a bad look for Hearns
     
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  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benitez and Hill arent all time greats

    Leonard was a draw even if you want to give Hearns the unofficial win it was against an older Leonard and at 164
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Hearns doesn’t have a win that’s as good as Crawford moving up to 168 to beat Canelo.
     
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  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree about the undefeated point but think hed do better than Hearns

    Especially vs Hagler

    Crawfords accomplishments are unheard of

    I think his ring IQ, defense, footwork and timing are better than Hearns

    I do think Hearns is underrated historically but is clearly below the other 3 listed here Leonard, Mayweather, Crawford
     
  9. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct
     
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  10. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only correct answer is the order in which they’re written in the o.p
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both of them are better than Spence though
     
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok but he didnt dominate Hill and no one argues that Spence is an ATG
     
  13. salsanchezfan

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    Leonard
    Hearns
    Floyd
    Crawford

    I like Crawford, I do. He’s excellent. He’s also beaten exactly one guy whose name anyone will remember ten years from now. And that one guy was at the end of his run and seemed propped up by the boxing powers that be much of his career anyway. Let’s pump the brakes on Crawford a little.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    Adrian Broner is a 4 weight world champion is he better than Marvin Hagler who only ruled at 1 division? Of course not.

    Sometimes context needs to be applied rather than just listing stats and numbers.

    Crawfords achievements are great no one is denying that but is his opposition great ? Not really no.

    Benitez is a great and historically better than Spence by a considerable margin.

    Duran is an ATG.

    At the time Hearns fought Hill who was in his prime he was a better opponent than a shopworn Canelo who had been going through the motions for the past 3 or 4 years.

    As I said context.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Leonard has admitted Hearns deserved the nod in their 2nd fight I've also never seen a single fans scorecard scoring the fight favour of Leonard.

    The fight is widely considered a robbery.

    And in actual fact Leonard was the favourite over Hearns in the rematch despite you trying to criticise Hearns's performance over Leonard.

    Leonard was also fresh off stopping Donny Lalonde who was a Light Heavyweight champion.

    Leonard at that stage in his career I'd still consider a better H2H opponent than the version of Canelo that Crawford beat.

    Benitez and Hill aren't all time greats no but Benitez is considered a great and was in his prime.

    Hill is probably considered a lower tier great but again he was also in his prime.

    Has Crawford fought any opponent considered a great in their prime ?
     
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