Usyk says 2-3 more fights before he retires

"and has the best resume in boxing"

I don't think this is close to accurate.

 

Who does then ***** boy?

 

It'd be quicker to go the other way and say who doesn't have a better resume then Usyk? Hes 8-0 at HW and has lost 30 rounds. Lets not pretend this is a great resume it really isn't.

 

You’re a troll, if it’s that easy start naming guys with a better resume. Literally every boxer has insane respect for Usyk. From Inoue to Shakur.

 

He started at cruiser, though, so you are using a completely false and contrived metric. He is 13-0 on title fights, 11 against fellow titlists. And Chisora is a good 14th fight as a two-time title contender who has been a factor at heavy for 15 years. It is a FANTASTIC resume by any standards.

Losing rounds has nothing to do with resume. And of those 30 rounds he supposedly lost, he might have actually lost half. But again, it doesn't matter, because you are reaching to come up with irrelevant things to say to knock him down a few notches.

 

Since when did losing rounds become part of a fighters over all resume??

That's a wild take

 

I like Usyk, and believe he is a head to head nightmare for most. But to call his record fantastic, particularly at heavyweight, is wholly inaccurate. But then, the same can be said for many great fighters. They can only beat who is about at the time. Usyk cleared up the end of a weak era. If you think Fury, AJ and Dubois are great heavyweights, elite fighters, then sure, rank him highly. But they are not. And Del, loveable rogue that he pretends to be, holds a great record of having lost to every big name he fought...

 

1. He has beaten the defining two heavies between Klitschko and himself four times. He has defined his era.

2. I specifically corrected HistoryZero26 for ignoring his cruiserweight accomplishment.

His record is beyond fantastic...it's about as good as it can be for the era he fought in.

 

No worries man, we are in agreement. He could not have done any better with the opposition available, and he is, for me, a H2H great, but the level of his opposition is what holds him back as they themselves were not 'elite' fighters in the way Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns etc were for each other. To be an ATG, you have to have wins over ATG for me...and yet, I do believe Usyk competes against ATG fighters and I rate other fighters without such wins even higher...but if we take Ali's record, beating Foreman and Frazier as fantastic we surely can't compare beating the three stooges and another guy, can we?

Thanks for your thoughtful reply man, peace and love, Px

For the record, I am aware 'my' metric is faintly ridiculous as there are many more champs like Usyk who fought in eras where they were 'stand alone' than ones who regularly battled for hegemony amongst similarly talented fighters, but hey, I'm a faintly ridiculous guy!!

 

And I agree, but those are some pretty unique sets of fighters, no?

I would say, for example, that it compares favorably to the 90s. You had Lennox, who I love but occasionally lost to second-raters, Holy who compiled a magnificent set of wins but also blew hot and cold, Bowe who was a one-hit wonder, and post-prison Tyson, who was terrible, they didn't even all fight each other, with Lennox's big wins coming after Holy was past it and Tyson shot. It was a fun era, and those guys were great, but nothing anyone did there compares with Usyk coming in and derailing Joshua and Fury.

 

i know which one is curly.

 

Berbick, Smith, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks, Bruno, Williams > Chisora, Joshua, Joshua, Dubois, Fury, Fury, Dubois, Wilder

 

I can’t tell if it’s hatred or just trolling.